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NATERFC1
23-12-2012, 23:33
Interesting piece in the Guardian;

If Michael Laudrup carries on like this, he will find himself among the candidates for Sir Alex Ferguson's job. Since his arrival in English football during the summer the 48-year-old Dane has hardly put a foot wrong and on Sunday his team deservedly held the league leaders to a draw in a match full of incident and excitement.

Laudrup had been informed that last season, as newcomers to the top flight, Swansea showed too much respect when Manchester United arrived at the Liberty Stadium and left with a 1-0 win. There was no such danger this time, when the home team took on Ferguson's side as equals. Despite spending the best years of his playing career in Serie A and La Liga, Laudrup has taken to the Premier League with ease. His linguistic fluency must surely be a help, and perhaps the Danish and English football temperaments are not so far apart. Or maybe Brendan Rodgers, his predecessor, bequeathed him the essentials of a team who play the sort of thoughtful, intelligent football that would attract any coach with progressive ideas.

But, as we saw in Sunday's pulsating contest, Laudrup not only grasped the salient points of Rodgers's blueprint but made significant improvements to it, his additions to the squad demonstrating a wonderfully keen eye for quality at bargain prices. Michu at one end and Chico Flores at the other were outstanding as Swansea went toe-to-toe with United, while Jonathan de Guzmán looked a cut above every other midfield player on the pitch. Michu and Flores costa mere Ł2m apiece, while De Guzmán is on a season's loan from Villarreal.

To confront the challenge of United, the Dutch midfielder Kemy Agustien was brought into the midfield shield to supply strength and a gift for long passing alongside the less than physically imposing Leon Britton. Laudrup also gave Dwight Tiendalli, another Dutchman, his second league start of the season at right-back, confronting Ashley Young. Both men were outstanding.

Inevitably, given the size of the Welsh club, the manager's resources are slender. Once De Guzmán had been withdrawn in the 70th minute – not, apparently, as a result of having his toe accidentally but painfully trodden on by the referee 10 minutes earlier – and an exhausted Agustien followed him, their replacements were unable to provide a similar spark.

An enforced tactical reorganisation meant Michu was pulled back into central midfield where he spent most of his career in Spain. He had already scored the equaliser, a goal that took him above Robin van Persie at the top of the league standings, and his redeployment must have come as a relief to the sorely tried Nemanja Vidic and Jonny Evans. Michu suffered not at all by comparison with the Ł24m Van Persie, which is not to disparage United's top scorer but to emphasise the value of Swansea's new star.

Laudrup prepared for the match by making good choices and sending the team out full of self-belief and enthusiasm. Even in the opening 20 minutes, when United held the initiative and enjoyed a near-monopoly of possession before taking the lead, Swansea found a way to create discomfort among their opponents' rearguard. Whenever Agustien directed a long diagonal pass into the path of Michu, this was anything but a mindless Route One approach. It was a carefully calculated and perfectly legitimate tactic executed by a team that normally specialises in a short-passing game – and one that, when executed with co-ordination, good timing and panache, is as attractive as any amount of tiki-taka. It might have given the home side the lead in the ninth minute had Michu not slashed a left-footed shot wide after using his pace to embarrass Vidic.

All this spoke extremely well for Laudrup. But then why would a man whose playing career encompassed 60 league appearances for Lazio, 102 for Juventus, 167 for Barcelona and 62 for Real Madrid, as well as 104 caps for his country, be remotely overawed by the Premier League? He has triumphed over pressure at the highest levels of the game but clearly does not feel that his reputation confers an automatic entitlement in his new role. It may turn to be a blessing for him that his managerial apprenticeship has not been without its setbacks. He knows his own mind and appears to have found, in Swansea City, a club whose ambitions match those he has for himself at this stage of his career.

After only four and a half months in English football he has many trials to face. No one, however, could fail to be impressed by the way he has met the early challenges or to see in Swansea's ability to reverse United's apparently irresistible first-half momentum anything other than the influence of a man who knows what he is about.

Before Sunday's kick-off, incidentally, there was a brief ceremony in memory of Kenny Morgans, the winger who was spotted playing for Swansea's youth team by Matt Busby, made his Manchester United first-team debut on the pre-Christmas weekend 55 years ago, survived the Munich disaster two months later, returned to play the bulk of his career in Wales, and died last month, aged 73. Sir Bobby Charlton led out Morgan's two sons to lay a wreath on the pitch. After such a dignified salute it seemed only fitting that the match should provide such rich entertainment.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/dec/23/michael-laudrup-swansea-manchester-united?CMP=twt_gu

Thoughts?

hagi bear
23-12-2012, 23:36
A guy who's managed in the EPL for 6 months replacing a guy who's been in charge for 25 years?

Not a chance

Hendrixbear
23-12-2012, 23:37
Far too early to be saying that imo. He's definitely done a good job at Swansea but he inherited a very good, tight-knit squad and managed to keep the majority of it in the summer. He has made some good signings though and I think with his style of football he might end up at one of the bigger clubs in England like Arsenal in two or three years time.

Russell_Nash
23-12-2012, 23:38
It's gonna be Jose

close the thread

hagi bear
23-12-2012, 23:38
The whole Michu thing is being blown out of proportion too. Does anyone remember a certain Papiss Cisse everyone was creaming themselves over 6 months ago?

If he's still doing it in 12 months time, then maybe he's the signing of all time

Andy Weir
23-12-2012, 23:42
Brian, the next Rangers? :ninja:

NATERFC1
23-12-2012, 23:49
A guy who's managed in the EPL for 6 months replacing a guy who's been in charge for 25 years?

Not a chance

He has managed in several countries before Swansea.

Successful everywhere apart from Spartak Moscow.

Jimmy Mac
23-12-2012, 23:50
It's gonna be Jose

close the thread
He's going back to Chelsea

david1982
23-12-2012, 23:51
The whole Michu thing is being blown out of proportion too. Does anyone remember a certain Papiss Cisse everyone was creaming themselves over 6 months ago?

If he's still doing it in 12 months time, then maybe he's the signing of all time

Papiss Cisse cost 9m quid.

Michu cost 2m quid.

Russell_Nash
23-12-2012, 23:52
He's going back to Chelsea


only if josep goes to the Rags

superrangers
24-12-2012, 00:03
I really hope that Laudrup does vcery well both at Swansea and in England in general. As a player he played the game both in the right way and at the highest level. He was a success more or less everywhere and his CV speaks for itself.

As a Manager, the challenges he faces are completely different and he has to try to manage players with a fraction of the talent he had, something which many greats have struggled with on going into management. He has had failures so far in his managerial career and although early signs at Swansea are positive, there have been rumblings of discontent in the squad and rumours of players not liking him.

He has a long way to go before he can be linked to top jobs in a meaningful sense, but he obviously has a good football brain and if he can get the man management side of things right, he might just cut it at one of the top clubs.

If he continued to do a good job at Swansea, moved to a big club and proved to be a success, it might go a little way to dispel some of the arrogance around the English game too - the ignorance of achievements outside of the EPL.

Timster
24-12-2012, 00:24
I seem to remember another former Swansea manager who had a good season in the Premiership and got his team playing well. He ended up at Liverpool where, by all accounts, he isn't having such a good time.

Not saying that Michael Laudrup is a bad manager or won't eventually move to a big club, but I don't think it will be Manchester United and I don't think it will be to replace Sir Alex.

FredBiletnikoff
24-12-2012, 00:40
He has managed in several countries before Swansea.

Successful everywhere apart from Spartak Moscow.

As a Mallorca fan, I'd have to disagree with you.

final_straws
24-12-2012, 00:45
A bit of a bold claim since he is still in relatively early days as far as his management career is concerned.

Always thought he would be a good manager and i did think he would do just fine at Swansea considering he did really well at Getafe and well at Mallorca despite the tough circumstances at that time.

Only time will tell but he seems tactically astute and seemingly has picked up a bargain or to in the transfer market.

final_straws
24-12-2012, 00:46
As a Mallorca fan, I'd have to disagree with you.

I always thought he done ok there considering that season they lost many of their big players and they were in financial turmoil. Although i could be wrong

NATERFC1
24-12-2012, 00:49
As a Mallorca fan, I'd have to disagree with you.

Hardly helped by the board?

NATERFC1
24-12-2012, 00:49
A bit of a bold claim since he is still in relatively early days as far as his management career is concerned.

Always thought he would be a good manager and i did think he would do just fine at Swansea considering he did really well at Getafe and well at Mallorca despite the tough circumstances at that time.

Only time will tell but he seems tactically astute and seemingly has picked up a bargain or to in the transfer market.

Done very well with Brondby as well.

tambourineman
24-12-2012, 00:50
It's gonna be Jose

close the thread

Not it is not. Re-open the thread.

Bill the Butcher
24-12-2012, 00:58
A guy who's managed in the EPL for 6 months replacing a guy who's been in charge for 25 years?

Not a chance

How many years had Fergie managed in England before he went to Man Utd?

TPABear
24-12-2012, 07:08
It will be pep

Close thread please

sirdrinksalot
24-12-2012, 07:10
Not a chance will Laudrup be the next Utd manager.

JellaFella
24-12-2012, 08:56
He always seems to start well and fade, every man of the moment manager has been linked to Man U.

'nuther Baku Bear
24-12-2012, 09:11
Suckers!

It's obviously the wee leprechaun that's working his ticket. All part of the plan so it is.

Daddy_Bear07
24-12-2012, 09:21
Whoever it may be is on a hiding to nothing.

And I pretty much doubt they will get the 4 years of nothing Ferguson was allowed at the start if his tenure.

bigkahunarab
24-12-2012, 09:23
Hard to see past Jose...

Sam_English
24-12-2012, 09:29
I can remember back to when O'Neil was being talked up for the Man United job.

How times have changed for that cretin.

Cannavaro
24-12-2012, 11:17
Did he not start well at both Mallorca and Getafe before starting to struggle in later seasons?

Cannavaro
24-12-2012, 11:19
I can remember back to when O'Neil was being talked up for the Man United job.

How times have changed for that cretin.

Haha good shout, he has been shown up over the past 12 months for being the average manager he is, predictable physical game isn't working at Sunderland and the Johnson signing hasn't worked out well in the main

perthtrueger
24-12-2012, 14:10
Itl b pep guardiola or jose for utd !
No chance michael laudrup

Top_Cat
24-12-2012, 14:17
Pep or Jose for Manure

dsloan
24-12-2012, 14:20
Wee popcorn teeth is Fergies new mate,it could be him.He has just been on SSN backing him over his outburst yesterday.

DelightfulDennis
24-12-2012, 15:15
He's made a good start but lets not go over the score. He took over a decent side who finished 11th last season and he currently has them in 11th place. Rodgers left them in good shape. They lost two of their best players in Allen and Sinclair but he was also given 17-20m to spend. I'm surprised he spent Ł5.5m on Ki.

DelightfulDennis
24-12-2012, 15:22
The whole Michu thing is being blown out of proportion too. Does anyone remember a certain Papiss Cisse everyone was creaming themselves over 6 months ago?

If he's still doing it in 12 months time, then maybe he's the signing of all time

The reason it isn't happening for Cisse is because he's being played out of position. The same happened with Ba last season. When Cisse arrived Pardew played Ba out wide and he barely scored another goal. The roles have now been switched. It's Cisse out wide with Ba scoring the goals.

Sam_English
24-12-2012, 15:44
Suckers!

It's obviously the wee leprechaun that's working his ticket. All part of the plan so it is.
With Dumbert as his no 2

That would be comedy gold

kingb
24-12-2012, 18:11
Anyone who thinks mourinho will get a job at united need their heads looked at.

The united board would never accept a guy that is a quick fix manager who has a 3 year good period at every club. After that it always goes its up. The united board have already said he would effect the brand and relationship of the club.

Klopp, moyes or Guardiola are the only 3 managers they will be looking at.

DelightfulDennis
24-12-2012, 18:17
If Ronaldo returns in the summer, which looks possible, I can see Fergie delaying his retirement for another few years.

DadoPrso42
24-12-2012, 18:18
How many years had Fergie managed in England before he went to Man Utd?

Fergie had won a European trophy.

Man United will not go down the Liverpool route of employing a flavour of the month manager. It will be someone top drawer and proven.

Admiral Bear
24-12-2012, 19:22
Hard to see past Jose...

Mourinho will be out of work at the end of the season and there is no sign that Ferguson is retiring. Think he'll at least do another 2 years.

Mourinho and Guardiola aren't going to hang around waiting for Fergie to pack it in.

thewylieboy
24-12-2012, 19:28
Ryan giggs will be next Man U manager

DelightfulDennis
24-12-2012, 19:46
Mourinho will be out of work at the end of the season and there is no sign that Ferguson is retiring. Think he'll at least do another 2 years.

Mourinho and Guardiola aren't going to hang around waiting for Fergie to pack it in.

As far as I can see Jose has four possibilities in the summer -- Chelsea, Man City, PSG, Portugal. All four won't be available but one of them will.

DelightfulDennis
24-12-2012, 19:46
Ryan giggs will be next Man U manager

He and Gary Neville are currently doing their badges.

robertobear
24-12-2012, 20:07
heard that Giggs is being mentored for managers job,might not be next in line but will be eventually.
Not a chance will Laudrup be the next Utd manager.

robertobear
24-12-2012, 20:16
heard that Ryan Giggs is being lined up to be manager in the future

DelightfulDennis
24-12-2012, 20:20
heard that Ryan Giggs is being lined up to be manager in the future

You already told us, nine minutes ago.