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Zvonimir Boban
13-12-2010, 21:16
well since there was a turkish league thread I thought why not :D

at the moment the Croatian League is entering its winter break and is due to resume in late February

anyway the current standings are as of 13th December

1 Dinamo Zagreb 18 14 3 1 40 9 +31 45
2 Hajduk Split 18 12 4 2 39 15 +24 40
3 Cibalia 18 9 3 6 24 14 +10 30
4 Inter Zaprešic 18 8 4 6 17 17 +0 28
5 Split 18 8 3 7 21 13 +8 27 LDLLW
6 Karlovac 18 8 2 8 17 16 +1 26
7 Rijeka 18 7 4 7 22 26 -4 25
8 Varaždin 18 6 7 5 16 21 -5 25
9 Slaven Koprivnica 18 6 6 6 18 18 +0 24
10 Zadar 18 7 2 9 23 24 -1 23
11 Osijek 18 5 7 6 20 20 +0 22
12 Zagreb 18 6 3 9 16 21 -5 21
13 Lokomotiva 18 6 3 9 17 27 -10 21
14 Šibenik 18 4 6 8 21 25 -4 18
15 Istra 1961 18 5 3 10 14 27 -13 18
16 Hrvatski Drago… 18 1 4 13 11 43 -32 7

and a breif guide to the clubs


Cibalia

were called Dinamo Vinkovci before independence

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/Cibalia09.svg.png

Dinamo Zagreb

the only croatian club to have got to the Champions league group stages , was the favoured club of Franjo Tuđman , ex croatian president who led it to independence
We played them in 2005 during Big Eck's last season where we lost 1-0 in Toronto
http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/31782.gif

Hadjuk Split


has the oldest organised firm/ultras in Europe , the Torcida who were founded in 1950 , also had a reputation for being Tito's favourette club , he reportedly tried to persuade them to move to Belgrade as he admired their Dalmation character , they told him where to go :);)

http://www.footballimpact.com/wp-content/gallery/logos-equipos/hajduk-split.png

Hrvatski Dragovoljac

http://www.decal-orations.com/images/graphics/n/nk/nk_hrvatski_dragovoljac_zag.png

Inter Zaprešić

http://cdn3.ioffer.com/img/item/145/243/217/o5Xk.jpg

Istra 1961

Based in the resort town of Pula

http://www.seeklogo.com/images/N/NK_Istra_1961-logo-BBF98D493A-seeklogo.com.gif

Karlovac

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Nk_karlovac.gif

NK Lokomotiva

http://sportbloger.com/grb/nk-lokomotiva.png

NK Osijek

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fr/a/a2/NK-Osijek.png

HNK Rijeka


http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn119/ban1960/nk-rijeka.jpg

HNK Šibenik

http://www.decal-orations.com/images/graphics/h/hn/hnk_sibenik.png

Slaven Belupo

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/SlavenBelupo09.png

RNK Split

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/dd/RNK_Split_logo.png

NK Varaždin

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/04/NK_Vara%C5%BEdin.gif

NK Zadar

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/7/7a/Logo_NK_Zadar.svg/300px-Logo_NK_Zadar.svg.png

NK Zagreb

last won the tilte in 2002 , there are the equivellant of Partick Thistle

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/424/nkzagrebstarigrb.jpg


The big derby in Croatia is the eternal derby between Dinamo Zagreb and Hadjuk Split ,its their equivellant of Manchester - Liverpool

their second derby is the Adriatic derby between Hadjuk Split and HNK Rijeka.

now for some background info despite being in existence fior less than 20 years and having a population of 4.5 Million they have appeared at 3 european championships (1996,2004,2008) when they got to the quarter finals in 1996 and 2008 and 3 World Cups (1998,2002,2006) their major highlight was comin 3rd in 98 only being denied a place in the final by Lilian Thuram on their debut . and have many players playing in the top leagues and many more coming through the ranks . SFA take note ;)

rosstheger
13-12-2010, 21:21
Interesting stuff mate. Always good to read about other leagues. We had a Serbian one on to go a few months back.

Is Mandzukic still at Zagreb?

Zvonimir Boban
13-12-2010, 21:23
Interesting stuff mate. Always good to read about other leagues. We had a Serbian one on to go a few months back.

Is Mandzukic still at Zagreb?

he joined Wolfsburg during the summer

bobally
13-12-2010, 21:25
The big derby in Croatia is the eternal derby between Dinamo Zagreb and Hadjuk Split ,its their equivellant of Manchester - Liverpool

their second derby is the Adriatic derby between Hadjuk Split and HNK Rijeka.

First thing to remember when you start a thread is to spell Hajduk the right way :D

Second thing to remember on a Rangers board is that there is only really one 'derby'- and it includes us :)

Third thing to remember is that Dinamo fans like to wear grey and green rags at some games :mad:

Fourth thing to remember is when Dinamo cheated Rijeka out of the league a few years back :eek:


Other than that I am all in favour so far of a Croatia League thread- after all there is an outside chance we could draw Dinamo in the Europa League

Torcida Loyal

Jelle1880
13-12-2010, 21:41
Croatians are the tarriers of Yugoslavia :D

bobally
13-12-2010, 21:42
Croatians are the tarriers of Yugoslavia :D

A few of them are in the TC by the way and more to follow :D

BroomloanWATP
13-12-2010, 21:44
Croatians are the tarriers of Yugoslavia :D

Didn't take long :D

bobally
13-12-2010, 21:48
Also more Croats played for the Bears than the Taigs :D

Zvonimir Boban
13-12-2010, 21:52
Also more Croats played for the Bears than the Taigs :D

Jelavic and Prso and maybe Papac ;) or is this going to turn into some daft wee debate :D:bouncy:

Jelle1880
13-12-2010, 21:58
Didn't take long :D

Couldn't let it slide :p

Don't mind them, but I do hate the fixation of for example Dinamo Zagreb with the child molesters in Rome.

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/7236/11427729710tu.jpg

Definitely want to go to a Hajduk - Zagreb game once though, but last time it was sold out in a few hours apparently.

bobally
13-12-2010, 21:59
Jelavic and Prso and maybe Papac ;) or is this going to turn into some daft wee debate :D:bouncy:
To make it easy then lets just go by passports and countries played for, so Viduka can go take a hike ;)

bobally
13-12-2010, 22:01
Couldn't let it slide :p

Don't mind them, but I do hate the fixation of for example Dinamo Zagreb with the child molesters in Rome.

http://img490.imageshack.us/img490/7236/11427729710tu.jpg

Definitely want to go to a Hajduk - Zagreb game once though, but last time it was sold out in a few hours apparently.
If you ever need tickets for the 'derby' in Split then let me know- have got a few contacts than can rustle them up. And the Dinamo stadium is not a patch on the Hajduk stadium ( not techie enuff to post pics!)

Zvonimir Boban
13-12-2010, 22:04
Spilts stadium , Polijud

http://imagecache.soccerway.com/venues/600x450/72.jpg

bobally
13-12-2010, 22:07
Spilts stadium , Polijud

http://imagecache.soccerway.com/venues/600x450/72.jpg


Thats a great picture- was there a couple of weeks back at the AEK game- unfortunately after a great 1st half (when they should have been 2-3 up) they were crap in the 2nd half

What's your location in HR?

Jelle1880
13-12-2010, 22:08
If you ever need tickets for the 'derby' in Split then let me know- have got a few contacts than can rustle them up. And the Dinamo stadium is not a patch on the Hajduk stadium ( not techie enuff to post pics!)

I know, Dinamo's is an absolute dump, can't even fill it for Hajduk games.
Hajduk's is brilliant though, love the form too.
Same goes for the city, Split is a beautiful city while Zagreb is more industrial and grey.

Both grounds also have a memorial outside for their fans who fought in the war.

I'll try and remember that ticket offer ;)

Zvonimir Boban
13-12-2010, 22:11
Thats a great picture- was there a couple of weeks back at the AEK game- unfortunately after a great 1st half (when they should have been 2-3 up) they were crap in the 2nd half

What's your location in HR?

i'm in GB ;) and google images is your friend :) although as for the staduim that just wouldn't work here :D :D :D

bobally
13-12-2010, 22:16
i'm in GB ;) and google images is your friend :) although as for the staduim that just wouldn't work here :D :D :D

It is baltic here tonight on the Dalmatian coast- could get down to around -5 degrees tonight (just as well the rakija and pelinkovac are flowing well :D) - was only 3 when I got home around 4pm :eek:

Zvonimir Boban
13-12-2010, 22:21
It is baltic here tonight on the Dalmatian coast- could get down to around -5 degrees tonight (just as well the rakija and pelinkovac are flowing well :D) - was only 3 when I got home around 4pm :eek:

Jammy Git :D:D

but where you rather be baltic :)

Dalmatia

http://images.interchalet.com/teaser/dalmatien_ferienhaus.jpg

Scotland

http://www.scottisharchitecture.com/uploads/Image/articles/irvinebay/Saltcoats.jpg

bobally
13-12-2010, 22:23
Jammy Git :D:D

but where you rather be baltic :)

Dalmatia

http://images.interchalet.com/teaser/dalmatien_ferienhaus.jpg

Scotland

http://www.scottisharchitecture.com/uploads/Image/articles/irvinebay/Saltcoats.jpg

Certainly not in saltcoats;)

LordSummerIsle
13-12-2010, 22:28
Croatia ....Loyal.

Zvonimir Boban
15-12-2010, 01:24
Rijeka's ground which despite not being the most beautiful is certainly in the best location

http://www.rijekasport.hr/lgs.axd?t=16&id=184
http://www.rijeka.hr/fgs.axd?id=1133

crackout
15-12-2010, 01:49
How is the 16 team set up working out for the Croatian League? Is this the second season from moving from a 12 team League? Considering the population size, similar to Scotland, it is unusual to have a top League with that many teams.

Although anything is better than the 33 game unbalanced League nonsense I guess.

Zvonimir Boban
15-12-2010, 01:51
How is the 16 team set up working out for the Croatian League? Is this the second season from moving from a 12 team League? Considering the population size, similar to Scotland, it is unusual to have a top League with that many teams.

Although anything is better than the 33 game unbalanced League nonsense I guess.

I haven't done any research into it but they have the major advantage of having only one cup competition

womble 3
15-12-2010, 10:03
I haven't done any research into it but they have the major advantage of having only one cup competition

have you physically researched winsor yet muzzi or will you do thta on your return from croatia

buster
15-12-2010, 10:11
Healthy balance between blue and green amongst those club crests.

:D

bobally
15-12-2010, 10:54
Healthy balance between blue and green amongst those club crests.

:D

IIRC none of the current teams play in any form of green;) Generally the club shirts are either white or blue, or a combination of such. Only RNK Split play in red and another interesting colour is that Sibenik's away colours are orange:D

The league, like Scotland is dominated by 2 teams, Dinamo and Hajduk, with Dinamo winning the last 5 league titles. Only once since the set up of the Prva HNL has a team outside of the big two won it - NK Zagreb in 2001/2002 (NK standing for Nogomet Klub-or Football Club).

Club football is on the decline in Croatia in general (there is no money in the league and the folk that 'control' the clubs do so for personal gain - e.g. the transfers of Eduardo and Modric and Olic over the last few years did not generate money for Dinamo, but it did for the club chairman). Basketball is considered the main sport (certainly in Dalmatia), although even that is fading. The new sport on the block in Zagreb is Ice Hockey which attracts bigger crowds than your run of the mill football game, as they have a team that plays in the Austrian League (most of the hockey players are actually Canadian).

My local team Zadar were promoted into the 1st division a couple of years back- their stadium holds about 4,000 max. A mid to lower league team TBH. Notable only for the tragic death of a player during a game 2 years ago when he went headfirst into the concrete wall that (at that time) surrounded the park- it was literally only about 1-2 metres from the line.

Hajduk has the biggest support across Croatia,although it has lived under the shadow of Dinamo these last 5 years or so. Derby games generate a great atmosphere- certainly the one's I have been to in Split. Not a great deal of fan violence, mainly due to policing of the crowds. An incredible police operation is mounted for these games and you will find riot police all down the 400km road from Zagreb to Split on game day- literally in every service station and lay by!

There is, as has been documented, a fair amount of racism still in the game- but it is wierd as it is okay to have black/coloured players playing for your team, but if they play for the opposition then they do get stick (this is mainly basketball)

A historical fact about football here is that the game was introduced by the english in the 1870's. I have been up to one of the original grounds in Zupanja (not too far from Vukovar)- where it was introduced (along with tennis) by an english guy who set up a mill in the area and provided this facility for his staff.

Zvonimir Boban
16-12-2010, 00:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJmrac6QOqw&feature=related

a video of the Torcida in action agaist Dinamo

now a cyber pint to someone who spots Bobally :D

derbybear
16-12-2010, 00:24
Interesting stuff - thanks lads.

Jelle1880
16-12-2010, 00:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJmrac6QOqw&feature=related

a video of the Torcida in action agaist Dinamo

now a cyber pint to someone who spots Bobally :D

Nothing I don't see at my local club in Belgium ;)

Zvonimir Boban
23-12-2010, 18:27
The Scum are in for NK Varaždin right back Dino Skvorc according to STV


Neil Lennon will take a look at young full-back Dino Skvorc in training this week at Lennoxtown. Pic: ©SNS Group

Dino Skvorc is currently in Glasgow undergoing a week-long trial with Celtic. The Croatia Under-21 international, on the books of top flight club NK Varazdin in his homeland, will train with the first team this week as Neil Lennon runs the rule over a potential January signing.

The 20-year-old, who has risen through the youth ranks at international level and made his first start at Under-21 level in a November friendly with Slovenia, is a highly rated defender who has caught the eye with a succession of impressive performances this season. He can play at both right back and centre back, with Varazdin using him in the full-back position this term.

NK Varazdin insist no agreement is in place to sell Skvorc to Celtic, with his trip to Scotland merely a trial at the request of the SPL side. Their coach, Samir Toplak, has stated it would take a sizeable offer to prise away the prospect, who made his first team debut at the age of 17 in 2007.

“We are in a delicate position simply because we do not have a replacement for him,” Varteks coach Samir Toplak told evarazdin.hr.

“Skvorc is extremely important to our team and if a club wants to buy him, they will need to spend seven figures in a foreign currency, preferably Euros. Otherwise, we will have nothing to talk about.”

Skvorc has been an ever-present for his club this season, with Varazdin occupying a mid-table position in the Croatian Prva HNL which sees them delicately poised between pushing for a European spot and fending off the threat of relegation from the 16-team division.

A physical, six foot plus player, Skvorc is described a faultless, strong tackling defender who is good in the air.

He scored in his team's last game before the lengthy Croatian winter shutdown, finding the net to equalise late on in a 1-1 draw away to league leaders NK Dinamo Zagreb. NK Varazdin's next league fixture is not until February 26,

It is reported in Croatia that Italian Serie A club Udinese and Russians Zenit St Petersburg have also been monitoring Skvorc's progress, having impressed throughout the 2010/11 campaign to date.

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-premier/celtic/216597-celtic-trial-for-croatian-defender/

Jelle1880
23-12-2010, 18:45
The mighty Varadzin ? Wow.

orinoco
23-12-2010, 19:01
i'm in GB ;) and google images is your friend :) although as for the staduim that just wouldn't work here :D :D :D

maybe im imaganing things but did you not post on a thread saying you were in the USA according to your ip address :p

hair bear
23-12-2010, 19:04
Worked in Split between 1999-2000 and amongst attending other games, saw the famous Hajduk v Dinamo derby, crowd were mental, flares, pitch invasions, coins, etc, magic!!
Wee Ossie was the Dinamo manager at the time, got pelters that day from some of the lads I was with, Falklands veterans!
Split is a great city, the nearby islands even better!

willywonka
23-12-2010, 20:08
maybe im imaganing things but did you not post on a thread saying you were in the USA according to your ip address :p


Ha Ha the boy outed again hell never learn :):):):p

Jelle1880
24-12-2010, 12:57
Took me forever to know who Zvonimir Boban was :D

Jelle1880
13-02-2011, 04:03
Little bump ;)

Hajduk Split are celebrating their 100th anniversary this year, so they decided to have a little party:

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180941_1821661417717_1125638958_32150534_3782128_n .jpg

http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00371/Hajduk_100_godina__371382S0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ypBwk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2ZHeR.jpg

http://image.dnevnik.hr/media/images/original/Feb2011/60416723.jpg

http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00371/vatromet_torcida-1_371717S0.jpg

http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00371/vatromet_torcida27_371756S0.jpg

http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00371/vatromet_torcida26_371755S0.jpg

http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00371/vatromet_torcida8-_371740S0.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J_Pi_2HM8o

Yes, that is a city centre which they have outlined with flares, and yes those are hundreds of distress flares they have launched in the air >:)

They also decided to brighten up Dubrovnik, a city about 200 miles away from Split.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI0q_GbJ5oE

BroomloanWATP
13-02-2011, 04:08
Jesus ****! :eek:

Magnificent though :D

NATERFC1
13-02-2011, 20:37
That is mental but amazing, can't imagine that in Glasgow.

laudrup
13-02-2011, 20:44
Jelle1880, that is unreal.

The boy on top of the Spire must have baws of steel.

The 5th picture down is spectacular.

Halfwaythere
13-02-2011, 21:06
Hadjuk Split fans show their true colours.......f*ck them

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1151/hajduksplit5fd3fl.jpg

chainman
13-02-2011, 22:00
So why if the population is similar to Scotland are Croatia so much better than us and produce so many good players...surely it can'y be down to facilities as you say not much money within Croatian league.

Would it be down to players moving abroad when they are young (say u21) or do many players learn their trade in Croatian league then move on bigger clubs mid 20's. Technique wise they are so good and we are pish.

Jelle1880
13-02-2011, 23:31
Hadjuk Split fans show their true colours.......f*ck them

http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1151/hajduksplit5fd3fl.jpg

That's just some of them, I remember a Croatia fan running on the pitch and kissing Dado's feet once :D

Pics from their friendly today, against Slavia Prague:

http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00371/hajduk_torcida_kor_371874S0.jpg

http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00371/koreografija_hajdu_371875S0.jpg

http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00371/poljud_hajduk_torc_371885S0.jpg

http://www.jutarnji.hr/multimedia/archive/00371/poljud_371919S0.jpg