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Campbeltown Loyal
08-02-2009, 18:43
Just having a look about on wikipedia and came across the Sampdoria page.

They have had some real quality players over the years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.C._Sampdoria

El Príncipe
08-02-2009, 18:45
St.Etienne used to feature heavily in european competition.

the_littlest_hobo
08-02-2009, 18:45
PSG, napoli, notts forest

kilbirnie bear
08-02-2009, 18:47
Eintract Frankfurt,Cologne

superrangers
08-02-2009, 18:48
Stade Reims, Borussia Moenchengladbach

buckfast_kid
08-02-2009, 18:48
leeds anyone?

grangers
08-02-2009, 18:49
Malmo :eek:

davecrafty
08-02-2009, 18:49
Ajax, arguably

Earl of Leven
08-02-2009, 18:49
Stade Reims
Leeds
Moenchengladbach
Anderlecht

Campbeltown Loyal
08-02-2009, 18:51
Not quite the superpower, but i remember barnsley and bradford in the premiership!

LWL
08-02-2009, 18:52
Torino perhaps?

Earl of Leven
08-02-2009, 18:52
In England you have Preston North End as a great example.

dados uniform
08-02-2009, 18:52
torino? could also argue ajax, maybe even feyenord. the last two being a casualty of not being involved in a major european league, bit like ourselves.

STATMAN
08-02-2009, 18:54
red star belgrade!!

struthpark
08-02-2009, 18:54
Didn't Sampsoria have a president who was exiled in Switzerland because he was scared to set foot in the country ?

Sheffield Wednesday still suffering for past years
Dinamo Berlin (inevitably)
These Polish Clowns we played in the UEFA cup and beat 5-0 disappeared from trace, was it Amika Wronki or am I thinking of soemone else ?

maxthebear
08-02-2009, 18:54
dont know how to spell it but sounds like oosh pez doza

STATMAN
08-02-2009, 18:55
Didn't Sampsoria have a president who was exiled in Switzerland because he was scared to set foot in the country ?

Sheffield Wednesday still suffering for past years
Dinamo Berlin (inevitably)
These Polish Clowns we played in the UEFA cup and beat 5-0 disappeared from trace, was it Amika Wronki or am I thinking of soemone else ?

yeah amica wronki - they were utter p1sh

bomba picante
08-02-2009, 18:56
Honved? It only seems to be MTK, Ferencvaros and Debrecen you notice in Europe these days.

revsween
08-02-2009, 18:59
In England you have Preston North End as a great example.and Blackpool. In latter years Nottingham Forest and Leeds have both won the European Cup and now look at them

doogieblue
08-02-2009, 19:00
Ajax. Used to be a team who would wipe the floor wi us (and did in 1995 I think) but theyre now average at best.

Earl of Leven
08-02-2009, 19:00
Amica Wronki don't exist any more....their wealthy chairman bought their rivals Lech Posnan and merged the clubs!

Brian Laudrup
08-02-2009, 19:01
Just having a look about on wikipedia and came across the Sampdoria page.

They have had some real quality players over the years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.C._Sampdoria

saw Sampdoria lose the European Cup Final at Wembley to Barca,Luca Vialli had a nightmare that night and it all went downhill for them after that.

remember they played a tournament at Ibrox too and Attilo Lombardo was unbelievable and Roberto Mancini wasnt to far behind him

El Príncipe
08-02-2009, 19:01
dont know how to spell it but sounds like oosh pez doza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Ajpest_FC

El Príncipe
08-02-2009, 19:02
and Blackpool. In latter years Nottingham Forest and Leeds have both won the European Cup and now look at them


When did Leeds win the EC?

bayernbear
08-02-2009, 19:03
Newcastle United. Well they think so.

superrangers
08-02-2009, 19:03
and Blackpool. In latter years Nottingham Forest and Leeds have both won the European Cup and now look at them

Leeds haven't won it. They lost the 1975 final to Bayern in Paris and have won the other 2 European Trophies.

Earl of Leven
08-02-2009, 19:04
When did Leeds win the EC?

They won ECWC and Fairs Cup did they not? They lost their one EC Final to Bayern I think.

STATMAN
08-02-2009, 19:04
also any of the romain teams

Lindsay Robertson
08-02-2009, 19:06
Mechelen of Belgium also went out of business I think. Beat Ajax in the Cup Winners Cup final in the late 80's saw a re run of the game on ESPN not that long ago great atmosphere and a great match.

revsween
08-02-2009, 19:16
Leeds haven't won it. They lost the 1975 final to Bayern in Paris and have won the other 2 European Trophies.I was very very drunk that night and seem to remember them winning something .........possibly the after match riot:o anyway my point remains , they were a big name team now they are grubbin about in the lower reaches

coisty_9
08-02-2009, 19:21
I was very very drunk that night and seem to remember them winning something .........possibly the after match riot:o anyway my point remains , they were a big name team now they are grubbin about in the lower reaches
don't leeds get 45,000 every home game?

ThePedroandMaryChain
08-02-2009, 19:24
Anderlecht. They've been in 7 European finals! Panathiniakos are also former European Cup finalists but have only won the Greek league once on the last decade (or something like that).

Benfica also.

crackout
08-02-2009, 19:27
Mechelen of Belgium also went out of business I think. Beat Ajax in the Cup Winners Cup final in the late 80's saw a re run of the game on ESPN not that long ago great atmosphere and a great match.

They are still on the go, a lower mid-table side now.

I'll say Rapid Vienna are worth a mention. Had a few good runs in the 80's and 90's, now struggle to beat anyone.

Dynamo Kyiv to an extent as well, hardly the regulars in the in the latter stages they once were.

ThePedroandMaryChain
08-02-2009, 19:31
Steaua Bucharest anyone? EC winners in 86 and runners up in 89 (the first EC final I can remember watching).

crockle creek dingos
08-02-2009, 19:35
Borussia Dortmund used to be a good side. Remember them winning the Champions League with Klos in goal in 97 i think & haven't heard much of them since.

SM
08-02-2009, 19:36
Steaua Bucharest anyone? EC winners in 86 and runners up in 89 (the first EC final I can remember watching).

Getting rid of Nicolae Ceauşescu was the biggest mistake that the Romanians ever made.

Sure, he might have been a monster who would've killed you for thinking, but Romanian football will struggle to reach such heights now that he's gone.

:cool:

revsween
08-02-2009, 19:38
Getting rid of Nicolae Ceauşescu was the biggest mistake that the Romanians ever made.

Sure, he might have been a monster who would've killed you for thinking, but Romanian football will struggle to reach such heights now that he's gone.

:cool: God rest him he was a good Bear

West_coast_blues
08-02-2009, 19:49
Dinamo Dresden

Stasi loyal :|

Flawed_Genius
08-02-2009, 20:15
PSG, napoli, notts forest

Sorry to be a pedant, but they are not, and have never been Notts Forest.

spotlight
08-02-2009, 20:20
Parma
Wolves
Dukla Prague

Red_White_and_Ajax
08-02-2009, 20:20
dont know how to spell it but sounds like oosh pez doza

nice attempt :D

ujpest doza

Divemaster
08-02-2009, 20:21
Hardly a superpower, but Brian Laudrup's former club Bayer Uerdingen. Think they got relegated by three divisions in the summer for finance-related reasons.

To be fair, a lot of clubs on this thread still regularly win their league or make the CL but can't be as competitive as before because they play in leagues with no money.

Many teams on this thread have also won their league many a time in the 25 years in has been since HSV last won the Bundesliga.

Kaiserslautern nearly got relegated from Bundesliga 2 last year. Doing better this year though.

parasol79
08-02-2009, 20:22
Just having a look about on wikipedia and came across the Sampdoria page.

They have had some real quality players over the years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.C._Sampdoria

the major one in recent years has to be leeds united!!

superrangers
08-02-2009, 20:27
Ferencvaros
TSV Munich 1860 - played West Ham in CWC Final and were playing amateur football if not defunct altogether within 10 years

Willie Woodburn
08-02-2009, 20:27
don't leeds get 45,000 every home game?

No, Elland Road capacity is just over 40,000. They didn't often fill that when in the Premiership and reaching CL semi finals. Yes, they get big crowds for League 2, but this season they have been anywhere between 20,000 and 34,000.

loyd_grossman
08-02-2009, 20:28
St. Etienne - been through fe relgations since we played them in 1975

bobby1873
08-02-2009, 20:28
Lazio are nowhere near the team they once were.

Divemaster
08-02-2009, 20:29
Ferencvaros
TSV Munich 1860 - played West Ham in CWC Final and were playing amateur football if not defunct altogether within 10 years
They finished 4th in 2001 in the Bundesliga. Now they're in Division 2 doing hee-haw and need to pay Bayern to play to use the Allianz

King_Billy
08-02-2009, 20:30
Queens Park ... No?

Zurab-Ice-Man
08-02-2009, 20:34
Artmedia Bratislava, well they were big once. :D

billybatts
08-02-2009, 20:39
Aberdeen; ill get my coat:D

the_littlest_hobo
08-02-2009, 21:05
Sorry to be a pedant, but they are not, and have never been Notts Forest.

Sorry Nottingham Forest:roll::roll:

Simon57
08-02-2009, 21:05
KFC Uerdingen 05 of Germany, as covered a couple of weeks ago in other thread. A once great club which played host to the likes of Brian Laudrup as a player, but are now in a lowly division after losing their finincial backing and being relegated several times.

I'm going to start a thread about them for a little project of mine in the next day or so.

swanny1873
08-02-2009, 21:12
Wouldn't call them a superpower, though RC Strasbourg were quite good but are now in Ligue 2 in France.

Arveladzes Shuffle
08-02-2009, 21:18
Amica Wronki don't exist any more....their wealthy chairman bought their rivals Lech Posnan and merged the clubs!

Didnt know that.

Also what about Parma.

ThePedroandMaryChain
08-02-2009, 21:20
Are Montpellier still in Ligue 1? I never hear of them anymore.

Briggsybear_jr.
08-02-2009, 21:24
Parma and Red Star Belgrade.

RFC_Sooty
08-02-2009, 21:25
Feyenoord.


They are absolute shit now and don't seem to be showing any signs of getting back to where they were.

swanny1873
08-02-2009, 21:26
Are Montpellier still in Ligue 1? I never hear of them anymore.

Montpellier are in Ligue 2... have they ever been in Ligue 1?? They won the French cup before, but dont think they were ever in Ligue 1. Might be wrong.

maccagrfc
08-02-2009, 21:30
im sure they were in ligie 1 a few years, they won ligue 2 on a couple of occasions and won the intertobob cup in '99

REMEMBER THE WINK
08-02-2009, 22:47
Just having a look about on wikipedia and came across the Sampdoria page.

They have had some real quality players over the years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.C._Sampdoria
Dukla Prague, gone to beating us three nil to the amateur leagues in a few years.

TheBattleFever
08-02-2009, 22:50
Benfica are not the club they used to be

super_ally_the2nd
08-02-2009, 22:53
take your pick from most eastern european clubs after 1990

Red Star Belgrade
Steaua Bucharest(sp)
Dynamo Kiev etc etc

brianmcj
08-02-2009, 22:54
Newcastle United. Well they think so.

never have and never will be a superpower, I think actually winning something in Europe back in the day might be a qualification for inclusion on this thread.

GingerFurball
08-02-2009, 23:37
never have and never will be a superpower, I think actually winning something in Europe back in the day might be a qualification for inclusion on this thread.

So does that make Newcastle a former superpower or not?

Goonerbear
09-02-2009, 02:57
Rangers, perhaps? :(

Racing Club of Paris.

TheInformer
09-02-2009, 03:26
Rheims.

and yes Goonerbear, Rangers are on that slippery slope I reckon.

nicecar
09-02-2009, 05:48
leeds anyone?

My first thought as well.

nicecar
09-02-2009, 05:55
Rasellick, just a few years ago they took over fifteen million supporters to Seville and last weekend they couldn't even rustle up fifteen thousand.

Gerritupyeez ya manky bassas. It's coming home.

Hamburg
09-02-2009, 06:06
They finished 4th in 2001 in the Bundesliga. Now they're in Division 2 doing hee-haw and need to pay Bayern to play to use the Allianz

Both teams own the Alliance Arena, but 1860 don't have too much money so they must pay a bit more interest to Bayern as they also paid the 1860 share at the outset.

stevie1873
09-02-2009, 06:51
Deportivo La Coruna

Did they not make the CL semi or final a few years back now? The had a great team, but now are struggling domestically. I seem to recall they won La Liga not so long ago either

youngcitizen
09-02-2009, 08:32
B Dortmund:)

making_a_stand
09-02-2009, 09:12
Given all the reported financial difficulties Valencia might soon be up there.

Earl of Leven
09-02-2009, 09:21
Valencia are £80m in debt....but say it's not a a problem as the new stadium will ensure they start generating profitsm. Mmmmm.

Che Que Bo.

gordybear
09-02-2009, 09:28
Dukla Prague, gone to beating us three nil to the amateur leagues in a few years.

that was Viktoria Zizkov, not Dukla Prague (though may also have been Dukla as Zizkov beat us 2-0 in Prague Ferguson missing a penalty, and we won 3-1 AET at Ibrox - out on away goals)

btw - I am not saying Zizkov were a superpower

ruglenbear
09-02-2009, 09:33
Parma and Stade Reims were who I immediately thought of, although you could argue that Parma's period of success was probably the anomoly as opposed to the norm

Could maybe argue Marseille although they, unfortunately, seem to be a bit better now

Athletic Bilbao anyone????

1690owl
09-02-2009, 16:17
Dynamo moscow

gary87
09-02-2009, 16:19
feyenoord are struggling

Selkirkbear
09-02-2009, 16:34
Locomotive Leipzig - Where are they now?

britain
09-02-2009, 17:38
Ipswich Town ( a super power in the mid 70s - early 80s).

NATERFC1
09-02-2009, 18:00
Lazio, feyernooord, dynamo kiev all struggled in recent years

The Treble Kings
09-02-2009, 18:01
Malmo :eek:

Since when were that a footballing superpower?

:D:roll:

bomba picante
09-02-2009, 18:25
Since when were that a footballing superpower?

:D:roll:

Malmo did reach the European Cup final once. Gothenburg however won the UEFA cup twice and got to the semis of the European Cup within a four year period in the 80s.

mfgorm
09-02-2009, 18:48
Spurs have won a couple of Euro trophies and have done nothing for years.

RumpingRoger
09-02-2009, 18:51
Nott's forest, Deportivo

Darthdaver
09-02-2009, 18:52
Could Ajax be considered a fallen superpower?

Apologies RWA :D

Flawed_Genius
09-02-2009, 19:32
Sorry Nottingham Forest:roll::roll:

That's better :D :angel:

redwhiteandblue73
09-02-2009, 19:37
Given all the reported financial difficulties Valencia might soon be up there.


Given all the reported financial difficulties Valencia might soon be up there.


My 'other' team, so to speak.


They could have done so much more, especially lately but Juan Bautista Soler has a lot to answer for as does a massive turnover of managers.


I had a move to Spain lined up about 5 years ago (through work), met someone who was willing to sell me their ST for Valencia. They are like gold dust (50,000 + st holders at the time, now a waiting list of 20,000, new mestalla will hold 75K).


Ah well :(

Goonerbear
10-02-2009, 00:49
Rasellick, just a few years ago they took over fifteen million supporters to Seville and last weekend they couldn't even rustle up fifteen thousand.

Gerritupyeez ya manky bassas. It's coming home.

Top quality assessment chief. 15m of The Greatest Fans in the World to 15k! :D

1690owl
12-03-2011, 00:12
dynamo dresden and dynamo berlin, matthias sammer and thomas doll played for them repectively

JMac8
12-03-2011, 00:19
On a side note, what the **** is Sampdoria's badge all about!

dmtommo
12-03-2011, 01:05
St. Etienne - been through fe relgations since we played them in 1975

nice bike though, thanks :p

dmtommo
12-03-2011, 01:12
On a side note, what the **** is Sampdoria's badge all about!

sure its something to do with a sailor smoking a pipe. genoa being a port city. dont know the full story though. wiki's probs your best bet

Followwithpride
12-03-2011, 01:28
Austria Salzburg
Malmo
Widzew Lodz {Spelling}
Dynamo Dresden
Locomotive Leipzig

andyrfc11
12-03-2011, 01:56
betis?? gretna lol

westl
12-03-2011, 02:19
FC Bruges,CSKA Sofia,Slovan Bratislava.

sirwatty
12-03-2011, 02:49
Its got to be Juventus

Most succesful and most supported club in Italy

* European Champions' Cup / UEFA Champions League: 2

1984–85, 1995–96

* Runners-up (5): 1972–73; 1982–83; 1996–97; 1997–98; 2002–03

* UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1

1983–84

* UEFA Cup: 3

1976–77, 1989–90, 1992–93

* Runner-up (1): 1994–95

* UEFA Intertoto Cup: 1

1999

* UEFA Super Cup:

1984, 1996

World-wide titles

* Intercontinental Cup: 2

1985, 1996

* Runners-up (1): 1973

Rangerio
12-03-2011, 04:29
Fall River Marksmen, 1922-1931 :)

making_a_stand
12-03-2011, 05:55
Pro Vercelli.

business_bear
12-03-2011, 06:53
Aberdeen :ninja:

shawlandsbear
12-03-2011, 07:37
Not a superpower but rosenborg were always in the champions league punching above their weight and then vanished

Bill the Butcher
12-03-2011, 07:40
and Blackpool. In latter years Nottingham Forest and Leeds have both won the European Cup and now look at them

Erm, Blackpool have risen again! :)

shawlandsbear
12-03-2011, 07:44
Nobodys mentioned liverpool yet

crl00002
12-03-2011, 07:57
Atletico Madrid are not what they used to be

Stuart_WATP
12-03-2011, 08:08
Nobodys mentioned liverpool yet

To be fair they won the CL not too long ago.

Ehiogu49
12-03-2011, 09:02
Rangers
Benfica
Ajax
Anderlect
Red Star Belgrade
Dynamo Kiev
Steua Bucharest
Borussia monchengladbach
Leeds

im_a_good_bluenose
12-03-2011, 09:05
a timmy i know says over the last few weeks he has seen the worst sporting lisbon psv eindhoven and ac milan teams in the history of all 3 clubs.
not hurting too much is he

Earl of Leven
12-03-2011, 09:54
Stade Reims
Torino
Anderlecht
Leeds
Dinamo Tblisis
St Etienne
Borussia M'gladbach

You could also argue teams like us, Ajax etc.

It's all related to the destruction of the way the game was funded - it's now broken and will be hard to fix.

Top_Cat
12-03-2011, 09:58
Dynamo Kiev

Earl of Leven
12-03-2011, 10:03
Until EPL/La Liga debt is dealt with they will continue to distort transfer market and wages market; leaving all other clubs shrinking.

Bundesliga has avoided this for a variety of complicated reasons....some unrelated to football.

ThePedroandMaryChain
12-03-2011, 10:04
Stade Reims
Torino
Anderlecht
Leeds
Dinamo Tblisis
St Etienne
Borussia M'gladbach

You could also argue teams like us, Ajax etc.

It's all related to the destruction of the way the game was funded - it's now broken and will be hard to fix.

Leeds demise is all their own doing. If they had stayed in the EPL then they would have been bought over by an Arab/Yank/Russki by now and would be up there challenging for the title.

The fact that no billionaire has any interest in buying Leeds and returning them to the top just shows how clueless about football the people buying up clubs are.

wjm796
12-03-2011, 10:05
Despite having a great season this year. I never think of Dortmund the way I used to they were a superb side.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2008/06/06/SBOtterill.jpg

Earl of Leven
12-03-2011, 10:06
Although Leeds are not traditionally a large club I suppose....when Revie arrived they had never won a trophy and had crowds lower than Yorkshire CCC, and both rugby code clubs.

ThePedroandMaryChain
12-03-2011, 10:11
Although Leeds are not traditionally a large club I suppose....when Revie arrived they had never won a trophy and had crowds lower than Yorkshire CCC, and both rugby code clubs.

I'm always intrigued about what constitutes a big club. People say history but does that mean that Chelsea will be thought of as a big club in 20 or 30 years time after the Russian has gone?

Liverpool weren't a great club until Shankly, Dutch football was nothing until the mid 60s when Rinus Michels took over Ajax and Cryuff appeared.

Earl of Leven
12-03-2011, 10:16
It is impossible to tell....I speculated on here a few months back that English teams that had 'always been big' were of not interest to most football fans: Villa, Newcast, Everton....this didn't seem to give them any extra kudos with modern football fans. So maybe it is trophies....or being successful when TV age began....or when Sky started....

Chelsea were a more than decent local team....decent support, the odd good team, and a fanbase which was drawn from certain areas of west London. They're not a big team...but are they now? Has SKY made them one?

I guess we don't know yet.....

geo_rfc
12-03-2011, 10:24
a timmy i know says over the last few weeks he has seen the worst sporting lisbon psv eindhoven and ac milan teams in the history of all 3 clubs.
not hurting too much is he

Funny that, I must admit iv seen the best Ross County, Utrecht & Braga teams in history over the last few years :)

strider
12-03-2011, 10:54
Is it maybe harsh to use "fallen" with some of the clubs named?

Would "overtaken" be more apt?

Tommo307
12-03-2011, 11:14
Not so much superpowers but the bottom five in the German Bundesliga are Monchengladbach,Kaiserslautern,Stuttgart,Wolfsburg and Werder Bremen which i found surprising.

On the topic of German football Dortmund had an average age of 22 when they beat Bayern Munich recently,be interestign to see if any of their players move on in the summer!

Rod the Prod
12-03-2011, 11:18
Borussia Dortmund used to be a good side. Remember them winning the Champions League with Klos in goal in 97 i think & haven't heard much of them since.

They are coasting to the Bundesliga title this season, but the German League is more competitive of course. Wolfsburg won it recently and are now in relegation trouble.

smithyblue1873
12-03-2011, 11:18
Steua Bucharest
Hamburg

tommy blue
12-03-2011, 11:19
Wednesday.

Earl of Leven
12-03-2011, 11:20
Dortmund have reduced debt from £150m to £40m in 6 years and survive on a budget not much bigger than ours (£100m total income, £32m wage bill).

They simply sought expertise at every level, worked night and day on financial restructuring and got the right manager and coaching staff; unlike another club I could name.

britain
12-03-2011, 11:39
Queens Park and Preston North End:D

barrysrightfoot
12-03-2011, 11:49
Moenchengladbach used to be some team. St Etienne were another big club in years gone by. As for Sampdoria, they are my second team behind the Gers of course!

Arveladzes Shuffle
12-03-2011, 11:55
Ujpest Dozsa

lostintranslation
12-03-2011, 12:12
Benfica. I was actually just reading something online about them, and they were up untill (2007)recently the team with the most members with 168,000. Have to admit that i am not sure how this is worked out, does anyone know?

Andrew
12-03-2011, 12:50
the major one in recent years has to be leeds united!!

Leeds are the 9th most supported team in the UK

http://www.roymorgan.com/news/press-releases/2006/490/

truebear51
12-03-2011, 12:59
Parma anyone?

BrianSmp
12-03-2011, 13:11
Sorry to be a pedant, but they are not, and have never been Notts Forest.

Its shorthand. Much like Man City and Man Utd.

Get over it.

BrianSmp
12-03-2011, 13:13
Scottish Premier League

When compared to the average UK football supporter:

Celtic supporters are:

* Over twice as likely (151% more likely) to be Catholic.
* 75% more likely to have bought something from a newspaper coupon or offer in the last 3 months.

Nae doubt!

suction_cups
12-03-2011, 13:29
Anderlecht.




Videoton.:ninja:

britain
12-03-2011, 21:43
dynamo dresden and dynamo berlin, matthias sammer and thomas doll played for them repectively

Here's an article on East German football. Interesting reading...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/oct/22/ddr-oberliga-football-east-germany

linwoodger
12-03-2011, 22:10
Dukla Prague,my 1st European away trip wi the Gers 1981 WATP

TPABear
12-03-2011, 22:16
River Plate and Boca Jnrs

govanbluenose
12-03-2011, 22:17
Racing Club de Paris

govanbluenose
12-03-2011, 22:20
Third Lanark ;)
Benburb

stevenwRFC
12-03-2011, 22:20
Benefica anyone?

govanbluenose
12-03-2011, 22:25
Here's an article on East German football. Interesting reading...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/oct/22/ddr-oberliga-football-east-germany

Great stuff. Thanks for posting it. A vanished era.

Bobster
12-03-2011, 22:26
Dinamo Moscow
Torpedo Moscow
Dinamo Tblisi

CaptainArmband
12-03-2011, 22:29
I know it may not be popular but Glasgow Rangers were never a superpower...(just a couple of posters suggested they were)

Juve are my best guess

ando1873
12-03-2011, 22:31
Username should be iisatwat


It was good banter, dont worry be happy :)


My 'other' team, so to speak.


They could have done so much more, especially lately but Juan Bautista Soler has a lot to answer for as does a massive turnover of managers.


I had a move to Spain lined up about 5 years ago (through work), met someone who was willing to sell me their ST for Valencia. They are like gold dust (50,000 + st holders at the time, now a waiting list of 20,000, new mestalla will hold 75K).


Ah well :(


Anytime I watch valencia home games on the telly there seems to be loads of seats empty!

TPABear
12-03-2011, 22:39
I know it may not be popular but Glasgow Rangers were never a superpower...(just a couple of posters suggested they were)

Juve are my best guess

Are you serious

Mr Chips
12-03-2011, 22:43
Red Star, Nottingham Forest and Steaua all won the European Cup as it was then - I suspect they will never repeat that

jaymuz7
12-03-2011, 22:48
dont know how to spell it but sounds like oosh pez doza
:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:

I take it you mean Ujpest Dozsa:D

brilliant:)

Axel Foley
12-03-2011, 23:19
Can't believe its taken nearly 150 posts and no one has mentioned them, so i will.

JUVENTUS

johnny fontane
12-03-2011, 23:21
Hungarian teams including the national team have all but vanished despite atone point being the envy of the world. Belgium too used to produce some great teams but barely show up anymore. Same could be said for Scotland too I guess.

Bigeye
12-03-2011, 23:54
Hungary...........The Magical Maygars.

canalbear
13-03-2011, 00:15
Brazil.

never quite do it these days.

1690owl
13-03-2011, 02:05
Great stuff. Thanks for posting it. A vanished era.

obviously theres "tor" the book on german football but are there any books out there specifically on east german football?

1690owl
13-03-2011, 02:07
Here's an article on East German football. Interesting reading...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2009/oct/22/ddr-oberliga-football-east-germany

obviously theres tor the book on german football , but are there any books out there on east german football specifically?

Nikica Jelavic Loyal
13-03-2011, 02:08
Partizan Belgrade

Sam_English
13-03-2011, 07:29
Dukla Prague.

Gone to the wall

bristolger
13-03-2011, 08:01
Fortuna Dusseldorf were always kicking around when i was a kid

britain
14-03-2011, 05:50
Great stuff. Thanks for posting it. A vanished era.

No probs. Amazing how the East German sporting infrastructure unravelled afetr the unification of the two countries.

britain
14-03-2011, 05:52
obviously theres tor the book on german football , but are there any books out there on east german football specifically?

Can't remember seeing any to be honest.

Houlet
14-03-2011, 09:20
Newcastle United. Well they think so.

Their supporters must be amongst the most loyal though. They fill that stadium every week in spite of having won very little.

Der Berliner
14-03-2011, 09:26
No probs. Amazing how the East German sporting infrastructure unravelled afetr the unification of the two countries.

Not least for the efforts of the West Germany federations to edge ahead of their small but vastly successful* neighbours.

On topic, just look at the current Bundesliga table and state of affairs with some of teh grand and traditional teams there. Of course, on a sidenote, ManCity hasn't won a thing for ages, Arsenal, for all their great players and "ranking" in the world of football, won an F.A. Cup in 2005, which is not exactly awe-inspiring either.

*And not just because of steroids & co., but that myth has grown arms and legs too long to debate.

Dunn1872
14-03-2011, 09:54
Grasshopper? They might not have been one of the greats but didn't they used to regularly feature in Europe. Can remember Kubilay Turkyilmaz running riot against us.

Pandamonium
14-03-2011, 10:09
Galatasary (spelling may be wrong) won nothing for a while

Sussex_Loyal
14-03-2011, 10:15
Boavista, won the Portuguese league a few times and played Man Utd in champs league. Now in 2nd division.

ando1873
14-03-2011, 10:38
Their supporters must be amongst the most loyal though. They fill that stadium every week in spite of having won very little.

No they don't, they never filled it all last season and have hardly filled it this season!

weebaggy
14-03-2011, 10:39
St.Etienne used to feature heavily in european competition.

Weren't Celtc once a massive team:);)

billywizz
14-03-2011, 10:47
Dynamo Dresden were consistently European quarter or semi finalists until the wall came down, now they just yoyo between the third tier and the Regionalliga

Der Berliner
14-03-2011, 10:51
On a European stage, Real Madrid haven't rocked the boat since their last CL win in 2001/2002. That about a decade ago ...