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farley1968
11-10-2008, 18:12
Let's get some more photos of the old Park/Stadium on here, from before redevelopment was started in 1978. Anyone got some old ones hidden away which haven't seen the light of day?

I'll start with an easy one from the new book Temple of Dreams - one of the best ones of the old Park that I've seen.



http://i34.tinypic.com/2usv2o1.jpg

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 18:14
No idea if this photo has ben posted on here before

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/Ibrox%20Stadium/ibroxpark1vw6st1.jpg

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 18:15
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/Ibrox%20Stadium/PPPPPPPPPPPPPP.jpg

le bluebear
11-10-2008, 18:18
Let's get some more photos of the old Park/Stadium on here, from before redevelopment was started in 1978. Anyone got some old ones hidden away which haven't seen the light of day?

I'll start with an easy one from the new book Temple of Dreams - one of the best ones of the old Park that I've seen.



http://i34.tinypic.com/2usv2o1.jpg

That is indeed a cracking pic.

I've been through the book a few times there and can't find that particular snap.

:confused:

Popbear
11-10-2008, 18:19
Let's get some more photos of the old Park/Stadium on here, from before redevelopment was started in 1978. Anyone got some old ones hidden away which haven't seen the light of day?

I'll start with an easy one from the new book Temple of Dreams - one of the best ones of the old Park that I've seen.



http://i34.tinypic.com/2usv2o1.jpg


never went to the old stadium - too young. Looking at the picture there, it looks like there are only two pathways off the terracing , must have been mobbed at the bigger games.(Disaster aside) Would have loved to experience the atmosphere of 100k plus at a game.

Lord Carson
11-10-2008, 18:27
All those pics are new to me. Thanks for sharing.

Just showed them to my son who had no idea that it looked like that. In fact, he was gobsmacked that we stood up

le bluebear
11-10-2008, 18:27
http://i38.tinypic.com/2ex1mx2.jpg

Moscow Dynamo game 1945.

farley1968
11-10-2008, 18:29
That is indeed a cracking pic.

I've been through the book a few times there and can't find that particular snap.

:confused:


To be honest I haven't seen the book yet - Santa is bringing it I believe! :roll:

From the thread earlier today I thought this photo was in it. Cracking photo.

le bluebear
11-10-2008, 18:31
To be honest I haven't seen the book yet - Santa is bringing it I believe! :roll:

From the thread earlier today I thought this photo was in it. Cracking photo.

Hope not or i'll be contacting the author.

:D

Feelingcheatedloyal

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 18:32
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/Ibrox%20Stadium/ibroxpark3ww0ph9.jpg

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 18:36
Hope not or i'll be contacting the author.

:D

Feelingcheatedloyal


I'm thinking about getting that photograph converted into a large poster.
Done the same with another old photgraph of the stadium and it looked fantastic.got it framed and up in the blueroom

farley1968
11-10-2008, 18:38
never went to the old stadium - too young. Looking at the picture there, it looks like there are only two pathways off the terracing , must have been mobbed at the bigger games.(Disaster aside) Would have loved to experience the atmosphere of 100k plus at a game.

Steps onto the terraces were:

Onto the Rangers end from Edmiston Drive

Onto the Rangers end from Mafeking Street/Harrison Drive exit - became known as Stairway 13 after the Disaster.

Entrance into the old North Enclosure ( Shed/Derry) from under the North Enclosure, by what was basically the tunnel underneath.

Entrance onto the North Enclosure by the steps as the tunnel came out towards the Broomloan end - where the light blue wall is in photo.

Entrance onto the Broomloan end by small steps around the back of the Broomloan end in front of toilet block.

Entrance onto the Broomloan end by Edmiston Drive steps.

Entrance onto Broomloan end by narrow flight of steps beside West Enclosure.

Some of the older guys might correct me on this if I'm out a bit.

le bluebear
11-10-2008, 18:41
http://i33.tinypic.com/1622yqf.jpg

This is my favourite.

I can actually get lost in this picture.

Just wonderful.

le bluebear
11-10-2008, 18:44
I'm thinking about getting that photograph converted into a large poster.
Done the same with another old photgraph of the stadium and it looked fantastic.got it framed and up in the blueroom

Who done it for you mate, was it expensive ?

Know Your Enemy
11-10-2008, 19:03
Let's get some more photos of the old Park/Stadium on here, from before redevelopment was started in 1978. Anyone got some old ones hidden away which haven't seen the light of day?

I'll start with an easy one from the new book Temple of Dreams - one of the best ones of the old Park that I've seen.



http://i34.tinypic.com/2usv2o1.jpg

Where's the Rangers Pools Offices/Edmiston Club in this photo?

Anyone shed any light as to when it was built?

Also is it a car park,as I recall there being gates there,but it looks like it is closed off?

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 19:04
Who done it for you mate, was it expensive ?

It's a company in USA that's linked to Photobucket.
Was supposed to cost $40,but there was a delay,so they gane me it as a freebie and even paid the postage.

It's the same pic that you posted above,mate.

ZurichBear
11-10-2008, 19:07
Brilliant guys - always surprises me that Rangers miss an opportunity by not selling off framed prints of the old park.

blueismycolour
11-10-2008, 19:08
http://i50.tinypic.com/mc3re8.jpg

This is a water painting a friend did for me.

farley1968
11-10-2008, 19:09
Where's the Rangers Pools Offices/Edmiston Club in this photo?

Anyone shed any light as to when it was built?

Also is it a car park,as I recall there being gates there,but it looks like it is closed off?
The Pools Office/Edmiston Club was built in 1970/71. This photo is from between early 1967 (as the floodlights are on the roof of the stand) and 1970 as the Pools Office/Edmiston Club isn't there. There does not even seem to be any signs of it being built so it's possibly 1968/69.

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 19:10
Who done the painting of Ibrox ?

Know Your Enemy
11-10-2008, 19:13
The Pools Office/Edmiston Club was built in 1970/71. This photo is from between 1967 (as the floodlights are on the roof of the stand) and 1970 as the Pools Office/Edmiston Club isn't there. There does not even seem to be any signs of it being built so it's possibly 1968/69.

Cheers Farley,I had been at Ibrox then but was so young I can't recall this.

Now,the turnstiles I remember were along the wall, which is 90 degrees to the Blue Gates,but these seem blocked off? Was this always the case or was it a car park(or such like)?


This is a fantastic photograph and it is honestly the first time I have ever seen it.

Saved for posterity!

rangeral
11-10-2008, 19:15
Where's the Rangers Pools Offices/Edmiston Club in this photo?

Anyone shed any light as to when it was built?

Also is it a car park,as I recall there being gates there,but it looks like it is closed off?

Photo dates around 1967/68 period Edmiston club opened in 1969/70?

Someone else may be answer your 2nd part.

Cracking photo BTW

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 19:17
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/Ibrox%20Stadium/MainStand.jpg

Know Your Enemy
11-10-2008, 19:18
Another thing Farley,I meant to say,for an aerial photograph at that time it has very good clarity and quality.

The other thing I noticed,and this was discussed a while back on here,there is no fence between the old Derry and the Broomloan Road end.

I had a discussion with my mates and I always remember being able to walk round with my big Brother and Uncles to either goal,but some claimed there was a fence.

Anyone else confirm this?

I know there was a fence there in previous years but in the 60's/early 70's I'm sure there wasn't?

rangeral
11-10-2008, 19:23
The Pools Office/Edmiston Club was built in 1970/71. This photo is from between early 1967 (as the floodlights are on the roof of the stand) and 1970 as the Pools Office/Edmiston Club isn't there. There does not even seem to be any signs of it being built so it's possibly 1968/69.

Farley1968 I have the match programme from Raith home game in Dec 1967 plans are in for PO/EC states work would start in Spring 1968 it would be ready for Spring 1969

I posted a scan of it before on here.

farley1968
11-10-2008, 19:28
Another thing Farley,I meant to say,for an aerial photograph at that time it has very good clarity and quality.

The other thing I noticed,and this was discussed a while back on here,there is no fence between the old Derry and the Broomloan Road end.

I had a discussion with my mates and I always remember being able to walk round with my big Brother and Uncles to either goal,but some claimed there was a fence.

Anyone else confirm this?

I know there was a fence there in previous years but in the 60's/early 70's I'm sure there wasn't?

Not sure about the turnstiles you mention - I do seem to remember seeing photos with a few openings bricked up, which looked like turnstiles bricked up but not sure about this.

The next photo is from about 1971/72 as the Edmiston Club is there and the Shed is still terraces and not seats.

http://i36.tinypic.com/6frtq8.jpg

As far as the fence goes, this photo of the old single barrel shed roof seems to show a fence which may have stopped people walking round, unless there were gates in it. Certainly later on there was no fence. This photo was taken sometime between 1930 and 1953.

http://i33.tinypic.com/afkop4.jpg

xorbi
11-10-2008, 19:28
http://i38.tinypic.com/2ex1mx2.jpg

Moscow Dynamo game 1945.


I was there - first time at Ibrox.

second_pole
11-10-2008, 19:28
Let's get some more photos of the old Park/Stadium on here, from before redevelopment was started in 1978. Anyone got some old ones hidden away which haven't seen the light of day?

I'll start with an easy one from the new book Temple of Dreams - one of the best ones of the old Park that I've seen.



http://i34.tinypic.com/2usv2o1.jpg

That is indeed a wonderful photograph - the "real" Ibrox Stadium to someone of my vintage.

Although I have often wondered why the club made such a poor attempt at covering the Copland Road terracing - the roofs built around the same time to cover the Mount Florida terracing at Hampden and, dare I say it, the East Terracing at the Brendanbeu - covered a far bigger area. Both of those seemed to be of a similar design, quite different from ours -although I wonder if ours was maybe designed to complement the roof over the old Derry.

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 19:33
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/ALS.jpg

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 19:35
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/2e55bap.jpg

rangeral
11-10-2008, 19:35
Let's get some more photos of the old Park/Stadium on here, from before redevelopment was started in 1978. Anyone got some old ones hidden away which haven't seen the light of day?

I'll start with an easy one from the new book Temple of Dreams - one of the best ones of the old Park that I've seen.



http://i34.tinypic.com/2usv2o1.jpg

That picture must be around 1967 early 1968 as the M8 must have started to get built around late 1968 - Kingston bridge opened in 1970 therefore the road past Ibrox area would have been built at the same time?

ZurichBear
11-10-2008, 19:35
That is indeed a wonderful photograph - the "real" Ibrox Stadium to someone of my vintage.

Although I have often wondered why the club made such a poor attempt at covering the Copland Road terracing - the roofs built around the same time to cover the Mount Florida terracing at Hampden and, dare I say it, the East Terracing at the Brendanbeu - covered a far bigger area. Both of those seemed to be of a similar design, quite different from ours -although I wonder if ours was maybe designed to complement the roof over the old Derry.

It is a wonderful photo and a crying shame that most of us have never seen it before...

As for the cover, I wonder if money was the reason for doing half a job. Used to amuse me that the Piggery had a cover over the away end but not the home end. Even when they did rectify this is was half arsed...weird!

Know Your Enemy
11-10-2008, 19:36
Not sure about the turnstiles you mention - I do seem to remember seeing photos with a few openings bricked up, which looked like turnstiles bricked up but not sure about this.

The next photo is from about 1971/72 as the Edmiston Club is there and the Shed is still terraces and not seats.

http://i36.tinypic.com/6frtq8.jpg

As far as the fence goes, this photo of the old single barrel shed roof seems to show a fence which may have stopped people walking round, unless there were gates in it. Certainly later on there was no fence. This photo was taken sometime between 1930 and 1953.

http://i33.tinypic.com/afkop4.jpg

Thanks Farley.

I can see the turnstiles there at the bottom left of the ground,where cars are parked.You can just make out the door type silhouettes.
Now these must have been added at the time of the pools offices being built.

I could look at the photo for hours,and another thing struck me was that the M8 is not there yet.Now I remember all of our family were moved out of Kinning Park for the development of that motorway in the late 60's so I am off to check with the older gets in my clan as to their memories.

elgin90
11-10-2008, 19:37
That, my friend is fekin' fabulous.....:D:D

Thanks for posting it.




http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/ALS.jpg

ZurichBear
11-10-2008, 19:41
Where did you pic this up from Sam? :)

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 19:46
Where did you pic this up from Sam? :)


I scanned it from the book - 'Engineering Archie'

PortGlasgow_mk2
11-10-2008, 19:49
Whats the story behind it Sam?

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 19:54
Whats the story behind it Sam?

That was Archibald Leitch's first plans for the main stand.

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 19:59
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/Stadium_1.jpg

tuc
11-10-2008, 20:00
brilliant pictures should be a sticky

Lord Carson
11-10-2008, 20:03
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/Ibrox%20Stadium/MainStand.jpg

That is a great pic. Surprised at the amount of womanfolk in it. You did not go out the door without a hat on in those days :D

blueismycolour
11-10-2008, 20:03
Who done the painting of Ibrox ?

My friend Linda Corbett, the photo you posted is the same one the painting came from, but the book I have is the, Football Grounds of Great Britain.

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 20:06
My friend Linda Corbett, the photo you posted is the same one the painting came from, but the book I have is the, Football Grounds of Great Britain.


Brilliant painting,mate

farley1968
11-10-2008, 20:11
That is a great pic. Surprised at the amount of womanfolk in it. You did not go out the door without a hat on in those days :D

Was that photo not from Billy Graham preaching at Ibrox or Winston Churchill speaking?

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 20:14
Was that photo not from Billy Graham preaching at Ibrox or Winston Churchill speaking?


A speech by Winston Churchill in 1949

alpha
11-10-2008, 20:18
http://i38.tinypic.com/2ex1mx2.jpg

Moscow Dynamo game 1945.

wow

Is that the same gates we still have that were moved then??

blueismycolour
11-10-2008, 20:20
Brilliant painting,mate

Thanks, There's some fantastic photos posted on here of our old stadium, it looks as majestic then as it does now.

alpha
11-10-2008, 20:21
I scanned it from the book - 'Engineering Archie'

Funnily enough I read an article on that just last week it also had photo's of Villa's old ground also designed by Archie, any photo's you can scan?

Virgil Hilts
11-10-2008, 20:22
http://www.geocities.com/slimjimbaxter/auldground.jpg
circa 1902
http://www.geocities.com/slimjimbaxter/ibroxpark.jpg
circa 62-63

farley1968
11-10-2008, 20:29
Farley1968 I have the match programme from Raith home game in Dec 1967 plans are in for PO/EC states work would start in Spring 1968 it would be ready for Spring 1969

I posted a scan of it before on here.

Just checked the old Playing for Rangers books and in Number 2 (1969-'70 season, published 1970) an interview with David Hope talks about the club being built and that it is well under way and due for opening in January 1971 -unfortunately by Jan '71, the club's focus was on other far more serious matters at that time.

In PFR No 3 ( '70-'71,published 1971) David Hope talks about the club being newly opened. Interestingly, he says that part of the building had been open for a while and housed the Pools Organisation, the profits of which were used to build the Edmiston Club. It also says the Pools had a membership of half a million and the Edmiston Club aimed for 20,000 members with a two-tier membership system, which apparently was quite controversial.

Also there was a serious fire in the club within 1 month of the opening by Lord Provost Sir Donald Liddle. It took 6 months before it could be opened again after the fire.
Other interesting details are that all Pools money could be spent on anything other than the team. Plans were in the pipeline to massively increase the number of seats in Ibrox, although details are not given of how. The thought is that it would coincide with the club's Centenary. Events on 2nd January 1971 probably changed that.

Great photos everyone, keep 'em coming.

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 20:30
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Funnily enough I read an article on that just last week it also had photo's of Villa's old ground also designed by Archie, any photo's you can scan?


Archibald Leitch designed quite a few grounds in his time....
Bramall Lane
Ayresome Park
Craven Cottage
Stamford Bridge
Anfield
Ewood Park
Valley Parade
Goodison Park
White Hart Lane
Old Trafford
The Den
Roker Park
Highbury
Hillsborough
Tynecastle
Villa park
Dens Park
St.James park
Selhurst Park
Molineux
Hampden park
The Dell

And also Twickenham

I hope to get round to scan some of these pics eventually

yorkhill_loyal
11-10-2008, 20:38
wow

Is that the same gates we still have that were moved then??

yes they are the gates that are at the Broomloan end

yorkhill_loyal
11-10-2008, 20:40
Archibald Leitch designed quite a few grounds in his time....
Bramall Lane
Ayresome Park
Craven Cottage
Stamford Bridge
Anfield
Ewood Park
Valley Parade
Goodison Park
White Hart Lane
Old Trafford
The Den
Roker Park
Highbury
Hillsborough
Tynecastle
Villa park
Dens Park
St.James park
Selhurst Park
Molineux
Hampden park
The Dell

And also Twickenham

I hope to get round to scan some of these pics eventually

full list is on the below link, i only found out recently he had designed so many stadiums

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archibald_Leitch

second_pole
11-10-2008, 20:40
Archibald Leitch designed quite a few grounds in his time....
Bramall Lane
Ayresome Park
Craven Cottage
Stamford Bridge
Anfield
Ewood Park
Valley Parade
Goodison Park
White Hart Lane
Old Trafford
The Den
Roker Park
Highbury
Hillsborough
Tynecastle
Villa park
Dens Park
St.James park
Selhurst Park
Molineux
Hampden park
The Dell

And also Twickenham

I hope to get round to scan some of these pics eventually

I had no idea Leitch designed Twickers, but I always felt the place had a slight Ibrox-like appearance, despite the prevalent green paint on the old stands.
As a side note, in my opinion the now fully redeveloped Twickenham is the finest sports stadium in the United Kingdom.

alpha
11-10-2008, 20:43
Archibald Leitch designed quite a few grounds in his time....
Bramall Lane
Ayresome Park
Craven Cottage
Stamford Bridge
Anfield
Ewood Park
Valley Parade
Goodison Park
White Hart Lane
Old Trafford
The Den
Roker Park
Highbury
Hillsborough
Tynecastle
Villa park
Dens Park
St.James park
Selhurst Park
Molineux
Hampden park
The Dell

And also Twickenham

I hope to get round to scan some of these pics eventually

please do didnt realise he done so many the article I read was predominatly on Ibrox with (visual)reference to villa park.

How if any are still the original design??

alpha
11-10-2008, 20:44
yes they are the gates that are at the Broomloan end


so the gates at the copland are replicas not original??

Virgil Hilts
11-10-2008, 20:48
Where's the Rangers Pools Offices/Edmiston Club in this photo?

Anyone shed any light as to when it was built?

Also is it a car park,as I recall there being gates there,but it looks like it is closed off?
I posted this article a few weeks back on the old club. If you click the link below it you will be able to read it
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/2845535069_af444ea1ca.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/2845535069_af444ea1ca_b.jpg

farley1968
11-10-2008, 20:48
so the gates at the copland are replicas not original??


When the rebuilding was done the ornate gates were still at the Copland end. When the Club Deck was built, they moved the ornate gates to the Broomloan End and the plainer replica gates were at the Copland End - not sure why they did this.

rangeral
11-10-2008, 20:49
Just checked the old Playing for Rangers books and in Number 2 (1969-'70 season, published 1970) an interview with David Hope talks about the club being built and that it is well under way and due for opening in January 1971 -unfortunately by Jan '71, the club's focus was on other far more serious matters at that time.

In PFR No 3 ( '70-'71,published 1971) David Hope talks about the club being newly opened. Interestingly, he says that part of the building had been open for a while and housed the Pools Organisation, the profits of which the Club had built it. It also says the Pools had a membership of half a million and the Edmiston Club aimed for 20,000 members with a two-tier membership system, which apparently was quite controversial.

Also there was a serious fire in the club within 1 month of the opening by Lord Provost Sir Donald Liddle. It took 6 months before it could be opened again after the fire.
Other interesting details are that all Pools money could be spent on anything other than the team. Plans were in the pipeline to massively increase the number of seats in Ibrox, although details are not given of how. The thought is that it would coincide with the club's Centenary. Events on 2nd January 1971 probably changed that.

Great photos everyone, keep 'em coming.

Ok thanks so it delayed, I posted another answer in regards to the M8 been built around that period

rangeral
11-10-2008, 20:51
I posted this article a few weeks back on the old club. If you click the link below it you will be able to read it
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/2845535069_af444ea1ca.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/2845535069_af444ea1ca_b.jpg

I posted that as well a good while ago

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 21:01
First time i've ever seen that article.

farley1968
11-10-2008, 21:11
Ok thanks so it delayed, I posted another answer in regards to the M8 been built around that period

I think you're probably right, the photo is mid '67 to early '68. I found a site on Glasgow Motorways which says the Renfrew Bypass Stage 1 was started in 1965 and opened in March 1968 - it was upgraded to Motorway status in 1977.

I need to get out more! :angel:

jbrfc
11-10-2008, 21:13
so the gates at the copland are replicas not original??

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/jb1690/img022ih6.jpg

Are theses the original ones ?.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/jb1690/4q380g5ze8vp.jpg

pennyburn
11-10-2008, 21:18
Brilliant stuff this. There's a lot of reminiscing going on tonight.

opersson
11-10-2008, 21:20
I posted this article a few weeks back on the old club. If you click the link below it you will be able to read it
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/2845535069_af444ea1ca.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/2845535069_af444ea1ca_b.jpg

Crackin' thread gents.

Incidentally, Scott Walker's The Plague is a right toe tapper for the half-time music.

amabluestar
11-10-2008, 21:33
http://i33.tinypic.com/1622yqf.jpg

This is my favourite.

I can actually get lost in this picture.

Just wonderful.



WOW! That is an incredible picture. And stolen for my old man.

Tell me i'm right

Ibrox
Training ground
White City

rangeral
11-10-2008, 21:49
I think you're probably right, the photo is mid '67 to early '68. I found a site on Glasgow Motorways which says the Renfrew Bypass Stage 1 was started in 1965 and opened in March 1968 - it was upgraded to Motorway status in 1977.

I need to get out more! :angel:

Not the only one:angel: I also searched the internet to find out about the moterway


WOW! That is an incredible picture. And stolen for my old man.

Tell me i'm right

Ibrox
Training ground
White City

you are correct also in picture is old St Anthony's Moore Park ground and Benburb's Tinto Park

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 21:51
Not the only one:angel: I also searched the internet to find out about the moterway



you are correct also in picture is old St Anthony's Moore Park ground and Benburb's Tinto Park

Cheers for that.

Was trying to remember which junior ground it was.

second_pole
11-10-2008, 22:12
I think you're probably right, the photo is mid '67 to early '68. I found a site on Glasgow Motorways which says the Renfrew Bypass Stage 1 was started in 1965 and opened in March 1968 - it was upgraded to Motorway status in 1977.

I need to get out more! :angel:

Am I correct in believing that the the Renfrew part of the M8 follows the line of the old Renfrew Airport runway, and that's why this stretch is so straight?

rangeral
11-10-2008, 22:15
Am I correct in believing that the the Renfrew part of the M8 follows the line of the old Renfrew Airport runway, and that's why this stretch is so straight?

Yes that is correct the runway is part of the M8

alpha
11-10-2008, 22:24
[QUOTE=jbrfc;7314060]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/jb1690/img022ih6.jpg

Are theses the original ones ?.
QUOTE]


no idea mate look different to the ones at the moment(ltd)

look even classier back in the day

edit - I see ltd was the originals mental block:eek:

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 22:32
[quote=jbrfc;7314060]http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/jb1690/img022ih6.jpg

Are theses the original ones ?.
QUOTE]


no idea mate look different to the ones at the moment(ltd)

look even classier back in the day

edit - I see ltd was the originals mental block:eek:

I'm sure that these are the original gates.
I remember reading an article when the idea of re-building Ibrox was first printed in 1977,stating that the gates would be incorporated in the new stadium

farley1968
11-10-2008, 23:08
[quote=alpha;7314712]

I'm sure that these are the original gates.
I remember reading an article when the idea of re-building Ibrox was first printed in 1977,stating that the gates would be incorporated in the new stadium

Look at the following 3 photos.
The first one shows the original gates repositioned between the Main Stand and the new Copland Stand. This was after redevelopment in 1981.

http://i36.tinypic.com/315odw4.jpg


The second one shows the original gates positioned between the Main Stand and the Broomloan Stand.

http://i34.tinypic.com/ml1fvb.jpg


The third one shows the replica (less ornate) gates between the Copland and the Main Stand. After the Club Deck was built, the sets of gates were swopped around - not sure why?

http://i34.tinypic.com/205f67d.jpg

Sam_English
11-10-2008, 23:12
There's no comparison between the two gates

Know Your Enemy
11-10-2008, 23:34
There's no comparison between the two gates

Totally agree Sam - Night and day.

Surely they could have got a decent blacksmith to recreate the gates? I know of at least one who could have done that,not just done a quick,school gates kind of job?

As for the article about the Edmiston Club,I am the same as you,I have never seen that either? Great stuff.

second_pole
11-10-2008, 23:58
The original gates have a Rennie Mackintosh look to them.

No doubt Charlie would have been a Rangers man too, having attended Allan Glen's School for Young Presbyterian Gentlemen.

gairlochloyal
12-10-2008, 03:49
http://i34.tinypic.com/e7dj7c.jpg

This is a water painting a friend did for me.

was he 5 years old?? :ninja:

murphy
12-10-2008, 04:25
http://i34.tinypic.com/e7dj7c.jpg

This is a water painting a friend did for me.

You mean underwater:)

le bluebear
12-10-2008, 05:21
[QUOTE=Sam_English;7314762]

Look at the following 3 photos.
The first one shows the original gates repositioned between the Main Stand and the new Copland Stand. This was after redevelopment in 1981.

http://i36.tinypic.com/315odw4.jpg


The second one shows the original gates positioned between the Main Stand and the Broomloan Stand.

http://i34.tinypic.com/ml1fvb.jpg


The third one shows the replica (less ornate) gates between the Copland and the Main Stand. After the Club Deck was built, the sets of gates were swopped around - not sure why?

http://i34.tinypic.com/205f67d.jpg

Were the Bluebells that are on the original gates (now at the Broomloan Road Stand) always there, or were they an addition ?

PunkScott
12-10-2008, 05:44
SOme cracking pictures. Keep em coming. Anyone have a before/after from the same angle?

williamstown1690
12-10-2008, 05:49
Great thread lads,ah just wish we had phone cams and such back in the
Derry days,feckin hell the macaroon seller would be a feckin legend and Jimmy Saville and a full blown photo of the Blue sea with the bears singing
Derrys walls to amazing grace would be appreciated.

lordnelson1
12-10-2008, 06:20
Anybody have aerial photos of the ground during the redevelopment work?

stoddy
12-10-2008, 06:36
http://i33.tinypic.com/1622yqf.jpg

This is my favourite.

I can actually get lost in this picture.

Just wonderful.


What 2 grounds are beside the gas tower on the left of the photo?

buddyboy
12-10-2008, 09:08
http://i35.tinypic.com/284ht1.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/ruqi5k.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/19ry2a.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/a0jnye.jpg

Perhaps someone can help me with this next one.
http://i37.tinypic.com/3176vma.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/20z1m34.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/14botuh.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/9bcegy.jpg

http://i35.tinypic.com/106gc92.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/11uvold.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2qlr90k.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/jiib5w.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/2iizclc.jpg

KBC Loyal
12-10-2008, 09:22
I so wish I was old enough to have gone to the old ground. I don't even have memories of seeing it.

Bullseye
12-10-2008, 09:25
That is a great pic. Surprised at the amount of womanfolk in it. You did not go out the door without a hat on in those days :D I am pretty sure this was taken when Churchill visted Ibrox...


May 1949 when the Leader of the Opposition, addressed a rally of Scottish Conservatives at Ibrox. 22,000 were at Ibrox that day which is believed to be the largest ever gathering of Scottish Conservatives.

http://i33.tinypic.com/6jed7a.jpg

sam_cooke
12-10-2008, 09:31
http://i33.tinypic.com/2a014sj.jpg

buddyboy
12-10-2008, 09:38
I am pretty sure this was taken when Churchill visted Ibrox...


May 1949 when the Leader of the Opposition, addressed a rally of Scottish Conservatives at Ibrox. 22,000 were at Ibrox that day which is believed to be the largest ever gathering of Scottish Conservatives.


Pretty sure that is correct Bullseye. I posted a pic of the programme above.
Thanks for the background to the pic ;)

farley1968
12-10-2008, 09:41
Talking about the gates - the ornate gates were at the Copland end opening out onto Edmiston Drive. What sort of gates were at the other main exits, onto Edmiston Drive at Broomloan End and at the Cairnlea Drive/Mafeking Street exits?
There only seem to have been one set of ornate gates, so what was at these other exits?

Popbear
12-10-2008, 18:18
some cracking photos there.

Know Your Enemy
12-10-2008, 18:35
Talking about the gates - the ornate gates were at the Copland end opening out onto Edmiston Drive. What sort of gates were at the other main exits, onto Edmiston Drive at Broomloan End and at the Cairnlea Drive/Mafeking Street exits?
There only seem to have been one set of ornate gates, so what was at these other exits?

The exits at the bottom of the old stairwell 13 (Cairnlea Drive) were very standard wooden gates which were rolled aside towards the end of the game.I actually don't recall personally any entrance gates at that end,but what we used to do,was go in at the gates beside the original blue gates and walk round a small lane behind the old Rangers end and then go up the stairs to the Derry.Now there may have been gates there but as I remember it was only for exit.

The other thing was.becasue of the old railway line behind the Derry,there was a sloping type walkway,which took you underneath the cover towards the Broomloan Road end.

Stoddy,On the grounds in the picture question,the ground closest to Ibrox is the old Albion and the farther away one was the old White City Stadium(Greyhounds and speedway(Glasgow Tigers?)),for a while also I believe)

farley1968
12-10-2008, 19:05
The exits at the bottom of the old stairwell 13 (Cairnlea Drive) were very standard wooden gates which were rolled aside towards the end of the game.I actually don't recall personally any entrance gates at that end,but what we used to do,was go in at the gates beside the original blue gates and walk round a small lane behind the old Rangers end and then go up the stairs to the Derry.Now there may have been gates there but as I remember it was only for exit.

The other thing was.becasue of the old railway line behind the Derry,there was a sloping type walkway,which took you underneath the cover towards the Broomloan Road end.


Thanks for that - so it looks like there was only one set of ornate gates.

About the tunnel/walkway under the Shed/Derry - you could go into the Derry section from the walkway, but did the walkway then continue on under the terrace towards the Broomloan End? If so did it come out at the small set of steps where the arrow is on the photo below. If so was that another set of steps onto the North Enclosure terrace or is it just steps down to toilets or something else? There seems to be a couple of pillars supporting the overhang which would suggest you could walk underneath there - can be seen clearly on the colour photo at start of thread.

http://i34.tinypic.com/v8pg2b.jpg

Sam_English
12-10-2008, 19:11
This pic shows the walkway quite clearly.........
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/Ibrox%20Stadium/PPPPPPPPPPPPPP.jpg

le bluebear
12-10-2008, 19:22
This pic shows the walkway quite clearly.........
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/Ibrox%20Stadium/PPPPPPPPPPPPPP.jpg

Even though the traditional Rangers End eventually was partially covered (was the reason it wasn't fully covered down to cost ? ) the sheer noise inside Ibrox,even when it was so open, i'm thinking about Bayern Munich 1972, Juventus 1978,and games v Celtic was nothing short of incredible.

macleodrup
12-10-2008, 19:49
Some fantastic pictures on here. I'm going to have to get the Temple of dreams book soon I reckon. I don't ever remember being there pre-78 I'm afraid but when the main stand was redeveloped to form the Club Deck in the 90s I remember sitting in the Govan Stand in awe at how haunting a picture it was with the main stand being dismantled to accommodate the works. The stadium is still an everlasting memory of those who perished there in the disasters.

Edit: I do remember hearing the noise from Ibrox when I stayed in Cardonald when I was a wee boy and it was truly incredible.

Sam_English
12-10-2008, 19:58
Even though the traditional Rangers End eventually was partially covered (was the reason it wasn't fully covered down to cost ? ) the sheer noise inside Ibrox,even when it was so open, i'm thinking about Bayern Munich 1972, Juventus 1978,and games v Celtic was nothing short of incredible.


TBH, i don't know if it was down to cost or not.
The noise at the Bayern Munich game was absolutely deafening.

Markyboy44
12-10-2008, 20:07
http://i33.tinypic.com/1622yqf.jpg

This is my favourite.

I can actually get lost in this picture.

Just wonderful.

Can anyone confirm if the railway line which snakes around the stadium was a passenger railway or just industrial. I believe the railway bridge is still there on Edmiston Drive/Shieldhall Road ( where the away supporters coaches park )

stezman1
12-10-2008, 20:32
that was well worth viewing, saved all the photos

SUPERB STUFF

Sam_English
12-10-2008, 20:58
Can anyone confirm if the railway line which snakes around the stadium was a passenger railway or just industrial. I believe the railway bridge is still there on Edmiston Drive/Shieldhall Road ( where the away supporters coaches park )

There was at one time a railway station at Ibrox

rangeral
12-10-2008, 21:17
Can anyone confirm if the railway line which snakes around the stadium was a passenger railway or just industrial. I believe the railway bridge is still there on Edmiston Drive/Shieldhall Road ( where the away supporters coaches park )

Mainly a good lines to the docks but there was a station at Ibrox

you still walk on the old line as rubble from the old stadium was used to fill in the railway line

Markyboy44
12-10-2008, 21:19
Mainly a good lines to the docks but there was a station at Ibrox

you still walk on the old line as rubble from the old stadium was used to fill in the railway line

Cheers mate. Good info, M

tag2000
12-10-2008, 22:02
Amazing to see how the stadium looked back then.

You can see even then we're had a stadium we could be proud of.

Know Your Enemy
12-10-2008, 22:33
This pic shows the walkway quite clearly.........
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/Ibrox%20Stadium/PPPPPPPPPPPPPP.jpg

This is an interesting photo all round Sam.

It looks like the old castellated fascia of the press box has been replaced with the frontage I was familiar with and also on the top right hand corner the high multis have been built,which I assume,means it must have been around the time of the cover going on the Rangers End?

If you compare it with the other photo that lebluebear posted,there is also a slight different colouration of the terracing.I recall someone saying that just before the cover went on the end,the terracing was re-concreted? Taking into account all of the above,does this mean the photo from you Sam,was around 1968/9?


I had been the East Enclosure with family members before my first real personal memory which really sticks with me springs to mind.
Although I recall being amazed as a very wee boy at the size of everything from there(and the brightness of the floodlights on top of the Derry,the first time I walked up those steps at stairway 13 and looked at this vast arena,with the blue and white criss-cross on the main stand,the red barriers,the contrast with the immaculate pitch and at that time,the nets were striped red,white,red,white.I was totally gobsmacked.It was a real defining moment for me,and even now sitting here typing,I can still remember running along with my Brothers to get a perch on one of the support poles in The Derry(they were like a big "H" beam which was perfect for a small frame to fit into).To get on one of these meant a real up high view of the game,even if it meant holding on for dear life at times.

That first real sight of the old Ibrox beats any stadium I have been in since,and likely to be in again.That includes all the usual suspects,Nou Camp,Wembley etc.

The only other time I felt I was walking into a real historic and traditional stadium after Ibrox was going up the North Bank in Highbury.That was a classy ground.Still a poor second to Ibrox.

Oh how I wish we had it back now.

gordon_blue
13-10-2008, 00:05
The thing that strikes me in these pics is the almost ghost-town-like look of a total lack of traffic on any of the roads. There are a few parked cars but they are still deserted. No buses, trams, vans - nothing. And this was a huge commercial city at the time with hundreds of factories and works. Unbelievable!

And the lack of trees around Hinshelwood and the Albion areas. They have grown densely over the years.

farley1968
13-10-2008, 09:59
This is an interesting photo all round Sam.

It looks like the old castellated fascia of the press box has been replaced with the frontage I was familiar with and also on the top right hand corner the high multis have been built,which I assume,means it must have been around the time of the cover going on the Rangers End?

If you compare it with the other photo that lebluebear posted,there is also a slight different colouration of the terracing.I recall someone saying that just before the cover went on the end,the terracing was re-concreted? Taking into account all of the above,does this mean the photo from you Sam,was around 1968/9.

Lebluebear's photo is probably from around the 1962. After the 2 deaths at Exit 13 in 1961, the club embarked on a £150,000 modernisation plan. This included changing the stairway design with stronger fences and more handrails along its length. Unfortunately in the 1971 Disaster this would have dire consequences. Another part of the modernisation was the concreting of the full terraces. This started about 1962, so the photo is possibly from around that period and looks like the work is in progress.

As far as the Castellated Press Box goes - it was there in 1963, but gone by 1966 as THE NEW ERA book shows - the reason it went and when is as yet unknown. I have contacted David Mason about this and he is working on it. One thought is that it went as part of the work to install the new floodlights on the roof of the Main Stand. Whilst I am not saying that is wrong, and I am no expert, if you look at the floodlights they are a good distance from the Press Box, so unless there was substantial support work under the stand roof which required the castellation removal, then I would doubt this. There were a few smaller floodlights (I think) attached to the Press Box and these may be the ones which caused the castellations to be removed.

SAM's photo is possibly from about '65/66 era. The new floodlights were switched on in Feb 1967 (newspaper reports show this) and the roof over the Rangers End is not there and it went on in the summer of 1966.

Still all great photos and interesting details - be great if any punters had their own photos of the ground to show on here, would really add to the thread.

WATP49647678939903
14-10-2008, 21:20
bump - wot a great thread

Sam_English
14-10-2008, 22:07
Lebluebear's photo is probably from around the 1962. After the 2 deaths at Exit 13 in 1961, the club embarked on a 150,000 modernisation plan. This included changing the stairway design with stronger fences and more handrails along its length. Unfortunately in the 1971 Disaster this would have dire consequences. Another part of the modernisation was the concreting of the full terraces. This started about 1962, so the photo is possibly from around that period and looks like the work is in progress.

As far as the Castellated Press Box goes - it was there in 1963, but gone by 1966 as THE NEW ERA book shows - the reason it went and when is as yet unknown. I have contacted David Mason about this and he is working on it. One thought is that it went as part of the work to install the new floodlights on the roof of the Main Stand. Whilst I am not saying that is wrong, and I am no expert, if you look at the floodlights they are a good distance from the Press Box, so unless there was substantial support work under the stand roof which required the castellation removal, then I would doubt this. There were a few smaller floodlights (I think) attached to the Press Box and these may be the ones which caused the castellations to be removed.

SAM's photo is possibly from about '65/66 era. The new floodlights were switched on in Feb 1967 (newspaper reports show this) and the roof over the Rangers End is not there and it went on in the summer of 1966.

Still all great photos and interesting details - be great if any punters had their own photos of the ground to show on here, would really add to the thread.


I think your spot on ,Farley1968,that the date of that photo was 65/66 - just before the Rangers end was covered.

britain
15-10-2008, 07:54
Let's get some more photos of the old Park/Stadium on here, from before redevelopment was started in 1978. Anyone got some old ones hidden away which haven't seen the light of day?

I'll start with an easy one from the new book Temple of Dreams - one of the best ones of the old Park that I've seen.



http://i34.tinypic.com/2usv2o1.jpg

You've stopped me in my tracks with this photo.

Never seen it before. It's the Ibrox I knew 1974/75 - 77/78 when I was a kid.

Cheers.

davyloyal
15-10-2008, 07:58
You've stopped me in my tracks with this photo.

Never seen it before. It's the Ibrox I knew 1974/75 - 77/78 when I was a kid.

Cheers.

Think it's even pre-74/75 mate. There's no Centenary Stand yet, and no Edmiston House or Pools office.

britain
15-10-2008, 08:18
Think it's even pre-74/75 mate. There's no Centenary Stand yet, and no Edmiston House or Pools office.

True, never noticed the centenary stand hadn't yet been built.

Just had another closer look.

In the picture, what's that on the roundabout at the Broomloan Road/Edmiston Drive junction ?

davyloyal
15-10-2008, 08:26
True, never noticed the centenary stand hadn't yet been built.

Just had another closer look.

In the picture, what's that on the roundabout at the Broomloan Road/Edmiston Drive junction ?

Not 100% sure, but I'm sure that Sunday's NOTW would have carried a story telling the world that Ibrox groundstaff had gone out and mowed a "White Power" cross into a nearby roundabout.:cool:

Laudrup1
15-10-2008, 08:40
Another fantastic thread! It's great seeing pictures of the old ground. :)

britain
15-10-2008, 16:10
The book 'Engineering Archie, The Story of Archibald Leitch' by Simon Inglis is a cracking read for the construction of Ibrox.

It covers Ibrox in depth in various chapters and has some cracking photos. (I know some are already on this thread).

kaical
15-10-2008, 18:01
You've stopped me in my tracks with this photo.

Never seen it before. It's the Ibrox I knew 1974/75 - 77/78 when I was a kid.

Cheers.

I`ve looked at it every day,since farley 1968 put it up last saturday.I really miss the old stadium.The all seated Ibrox has never done it for me.

72 Blue
15-10-2008, 18:14
[QUOTE=Sam_English;7314762]

Look at the following 3 photos.
The first one shows the original gates repositioned between the Main Stand and the new Copland Stand. This was after redevelopment in 1981.

http://i36.tinypic.com/315odw4.jpg


The second one shows the original gates positioned between the Main Stand and the Broomloan Stand.

http://i34.tinypic.com/ml1fvb.jpg


The third one shows the replica (less ornate) gates between the Copland and the Main Stand. After the Club Deck was built, the sets of gates were swopped around - not sure why?

http://i34.tinypic.com/205f67d.jpg

I had no idea the gates had been switched. Also, when the newer set was made, you'd think they would be made as near to the originals as possible.


Great thread.

Sam_English
15-10-2008, 18:29
Picture two above shows that the bluebells on the gates have been painted in a lighter blue to highlight them

farley1968
15-10-2008, 20:33
Does anyone know why the gates were swapped round and the ornate ones were put at the Broomloan End?

Another photo, some of you might have seen before - taken by an old mate of mine on a tour of the Park in the summer of 1969.

http://i35.tinypic.com/29g1nq9.jpg

Know Your Enemy
15-10-2008, 21:54
Does anyone know why the gates were swapped round and the ornate ones were put at the Broomloan End?

Another photo, some of you might have seen before - taken by an old mate of mine on a tour of the Park in the summer of 1969.

http://i35.tinypic.com/29g1nq9.jpg

This is also very interesting Farley.

You will notice at the top of where stairwell 13 was,there is no wall situated there.This wall was evident both there and also diagonally opposite at the Broomloan Rd end(and a smaller one at the other side of the Copland Road end at the top of that stairwell).You will remember that is where a lot of the supporters in the Broomloan end would huddle together as a kind of wind/weather break.You would see them gravitate to that area to protect themselves.

Also I am sure it was actually added as part of the crowd control at stairwell 13 after that fateful day in 1971,as a way of diverting the leaving crowds away from the top of the stairwell.

You can also see the part of the covering supports,I mentioned in an earlier post of mine,where in The Derry,as a youngster we would climb up on these to get a higher view(they are evident by their white paint at the bottom of the poles).

kaical
15-10-2008, 22:28
This is also very interesting Farley.

You will notice at the top of where stairwell 13 was,there is no wall situated there.This wall was evident both there and also diagonally opposite at the Broomloan Rd end(and a smaller one at the other side of the Copland Road end at the top of that stairwell).You will remember that is where a lot of the supporters in the Broomloan end would huddle together as a kind of wind/weather break.You would see them gravitate to that area to protect themselves.

Also I am sure it was actually added as part of the crowd control at stairwell 13 after that fateful day in 1971,as a way of diverting the leaving crowds away from the top of the stairwell.

You can also see the part of the covering supports,I mentioned in an earlier post of mine,where in The Derry,as a youngster we would climb up on these to get a higher view(they are evident by their white paint at the bottom of the poles).

K Y E. I think the whole idea behind the wall was,as you`ll see on Farley`s picture.The 2 uncovered sections between the shed and the Derry,the crowd just turned en masse and made their way up the terracing.This always led to congestion as they would meet at the top of the stairway,with the guys coming along from the Derry.I can remember a couple of hairy moments getting onto stairway 13.

farley1968
16-10-2008, 00:24
Also I am sure it was actually added as part of the crowd control at stairwell 13 after that fateful day in 1971,as a way of diverting the leaving crowds away from the top of the stairwell.

You can also see the part of the covering supports,I mentioned in an earlier post of mine,where in The Derry,as a youngster we would climb up on these to get a higher view(they are evident by their white paint at the bottom of the poles).

The walls were added as part of the safety work done after the 1971 Disaster - they acted as a sort of filter, restricting the number of people who could exit the ground, down the staircase at any one time. Sad to say that something as simple as this wall, coupled with a different style of fencing on the staircase could possibly have saved many, many lives.

Argyll
16-10-2008, 01:22
Another thing Farley,I meant to say,for an aerial photograph at that time it has very good clarity and quality.

The other thing I noticed,and this was discussed a while back on here,there is no fence between the old Derry and the Broomloan Road end.

I had a discussion with my mates and I always remember being able to walk round with my big Brother and Uncles to either goal,but some claimed there was a fence.

Anyone else confirm this?

I know there was a fence there in previous years but in the 60's/early 70's I'm sure there wasn't?

I started going in 1959/60 and there were no fences between the Derry and the Broomloan. I know for a fact as I was a regular in the Derry and at half time I would go round to the Broomloan end to meet my uncles and cousins who were on the Ardrossan bus and would stand at that end. There were fences between the Copland/Broomloan and the enclosures but the rest of the stadium was open. We used to go round to the Broomloan and start fires on the terracing when it was cold as it was usually empty half the time.:roll:

Argyll
16-10-2008, 01:24
[QUOTE=farley1968;7314963]

I had no idea the gates had been switched. Also, when the newer set was made, you'd think they would be made as near to the originals as possible.


Great thread.


Murray probably sold them for scrap to his metals company.:o

britain
16-10-2008, 07:43
I`ve looked at it every day,since farley 1968 put it up last saturday.I really miss the old stadium.The all seated Ibrox has never done it for me.

I can clearly remember being at the 1975 Championship celebration v Airdrie, I was only 7 and we were in the West Enclosure, right down at the front.

I was sitting on the wall looking around in complete awe at a packed and massive Ibrox. I loved it.

Think the 'official' crowd was given as 65,000. (Aye plus 30,000 odd that, like me got 'a lift over' the turnstiles.

britain
16-10-2008, 20:13
I know that the Rangers Sports stopped in the early 1960s.

Were there some athletic races held at Rangers matches until the mid 1970s ?

fkmiller
16-10-2008, 20:56
another great thread about the old ground.fantastic photies.

britain
17-10-2008, 08:27
Deserves a bump, simply because its a great thread.

davyloyal
17-10-2008, 08:47
I can clearly remember being at the 1975 Championship celebration v Airdrie, I was only 7 and we were in the West Enclosure, right down at the front.

I was sitting on the wall looking around in complete awe at a packed and massive Ibrox. I loved it.

Think the 'official' crowd was given as 65,000. (Aye plus 30,000 odd that, like me got 'a lift over' the turnstiles.

Remember it well. As a kid, I was pushed right down the front in the Sellik end. Had a good view of Greigy in his chariot. What I remember most is the sheer number of flags, as people had been waiting for years to have a flag with "League Champions" on it.

britain
17-10-2008, 09:03
It brought it back to me that game when Ionasdad had scanned the Rangers News edition for that game.

Imcidentally the Ibrox terracing barriers were 'Leitch Patented Barriers' !

Jack
17-10-2008, 16:56
Some cracking pics

ZurichBear
17-10-2008, 17:43
I never realised in all these years that the 2 sets of gates were not identical. :(

britain
18-10-2008, 08:12
Looking at the photos, its amazing in the sheer vast size of the stadium until the redevelopment started in the summer of 1978.

farley1968
18-10-2008, 09:11
Looking at the photos, its amazing in the sheer vast size of the stadium until the redevelopment started in the summer of 1978.


This architect's drawing from the Stadium Development Brochure shows the new stands drawn on top of the old terraces. It was often said that the person sitting in the back row of the upper Copland or Broomloan stands would be closer to the pitch than a person standing at the wall at the bottom of the old terraces - not quite but not far off!

Not many signs of the old terraces are left, but the old wall marking the edge of the Club's property still exists today, at the Broomloan end. It's the old red brick wall which all the TV Lorries etc sit in front of on match days - easiest to see if you exit out onto the Broomloan Road, past the Ticket Hut!

http://i38.tinypic.com/np52rm.jpg

pelem
18-10-2008, 09:35
was it the lucky duck and the old ibrox house pubs just before the esso garage, then the bookies.


I wuold go into one of the pubs and the flute bands would be playin prior to the games. anyone else remember.

farley1968
19-10-2008, 20:43
wee Sunday night bump for this - hoping to drag a few unseen photos out of you lot! :D

briggs_bear
19-10-2008, 20:54
That is a great pic. Surprised at the amount of womanfolk in it. You did not go out the door without a hat on in those days :D

I laughed at that one:D I dont knoe why:o

briggs_bear
19-10-2008, 20:56
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/Ibrox%20Stadium/MainStand.jpg

My current seat right beside that support pole:D

kpswannie
19-10-2008, 21:10
was it the lucky duck and the old ibrox house pubs just before the esso garage, then the bookies.


I wuold go into one of the pubs and the flute bands would be playin prior to the games. anyone else remember.

It was the Mucky Duck

blueboy49
19-10-2008, 21:51
this is a marvelous thread and makes it worthwhile logging on to this site and wading through the inevitable dross to find nougats like this.Well done to all who contibuted the great photos.

3g
19-10-2008, 21:52
Some observations - wonderful photos.
- late 50's and early 60's it was possible to walk between the Broomloan and the Copland. I don't recall there being fences or gates to stop you doing this. I am referring to the walk-way that run under the Derry and connected both ends of the grounds. So, in effect, there was nothing to stop a riot between the two sets of Old Firm fans, yet never transpired
- the White City ran greyhound racing
- the Albion ground across the way from Ibrox was the first team's training ground
- there were two railway lines. The main line station was, roughly, where the petrol station now stands next to the High-rise near the PRW. The line at the back of the old Derry I understood was only used for 'industrial', but I am not 100 per cent sure on this
- in the late 50's there was a 'triangle' concourse of turnstiles from Edmiston Drive to the Copland terracing. This is where I would be 'lifted-over' for free into the match
- when there was a huge crowd, a wee laddie had first to find two 'carry-out' cans, usually lager, in order to prop oneself up to see over the top of the crowd. Otherwise, it was impossible. After every goal we scored, said wee laddie had to search for more cans. Ye get the picture.
- if ye ran under the Derry at half-time, the probability of 'gettin wet' from the unofficial urinals at the top of the Derry was always a problem
- even in a crowd of say, 37,000, on a winter's day on the wide-open terracing would leave yer toes and fingers frozen to the bone.
- despite that, the old ground has a thousand wonderful memories, but today Ibrox is more comfortable and we have to look forward to the future to keep improving the stadium. Still, it is nice to look back occasionally to remind ourselves of our traditions and heritage.

jake
19-10-2008, 21:55
That is a great pic. Surprised at the amount of womanfolk in it. You did not go out the door without a hat on in those days :D

if you didn't wear a het you were considered a lower class hairy

britain
22-10-2008, 05:04
Bump, as I just like this thread.

WATP49647678939903
25-10-2008, 22:20
bump - has anyone got any photos to add to this excellent thread ?

Sam_English
25-10-2008, 22:24
.



http://i34.tinypic.com/2usv2o1.jpg

Got the photo above made into a large poster and i'm about to get it framed.

It looks fantastic

ArchieBear
25-10-2008, 22:58
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/SamEnglish/Ibrox%20Stadium/MainStand.jpg

Absolutely fantastic picture that says so much to me. May be getting starry eyed but perhaps more innocent times. Glorious, thats how i would sum that picture

GordonBIue
25-10-2008, 23:06
Would have loved to experience the atmosphere of 100k plus at a game.

Nostalgia is a great thing but I can assure you some of the experiences were less than glamorous.

Guys pissing down the back of your legs isn't very pleasant I can assure you.

:D

britain
29-10-2008, 07:37
Another bump, as this is a great thread for all Gers supporters.

britain
31-10-2008, 07:34
I remember being shocked when I went to Ibrox in 78/79 season and looked over and saw the old Rangers End being demolished.

It was felt odd standing behind the goal in the Broomloan Road terracing and looking over.

jicre
31-10-2008, 09:47
Got the photo above made into a large poster and i'm about to get it framed.

It looks fantastic


In the late sixties the roof was blown off the Covered End at the Copland following gale force winds - Anybody have a picture of that?

britain
04-11-2008, 06:18
This architect's drawing from the Stadium Development Brochure shows the new stands drawn on top of the old terraces. It was often said that the person sitting in the back row of the upper Copland or Broomloan stands would be closer to the pitch than a person standing at the wall at the bottom of the old terraces - not quite but not far off!

Not many signs of the old terraces are left, but the old wall marking the edge of the Club's property still exists today, at the Broomloan end. It's the old red brick wall which all the TV Lorries etc sit in front of on match days - easiest to see if you exit out onto the Broomloan Road, past the Ticket Hut!

http://i38.tinypic.com/np52rm.jpg

Wow, some comparison of old and new Ibrox.

WATP49647678939903
12-11-2008, 23:20
Bump - anyone got any photos to add to this greta thread ??

Mason Boyne
12-11-2008, 23:56
Pure nostalgia. Well done to all the posters.Superb.

farley1968
13-11-2008, 00:00
Crazy to think whan you look at the architect's drawing, that the back of the Copland Rear today is more or less level with where the Copland End roof came out to.

britain
14-11-2008, 08:10
Got the photo above made into a large poster and i'm about to get it framed.

It looks fantastic

I agree, this is a great picture.

Ibrox really changed from 1978 - 1982, didn't it.

Torry_Gillick
14-11-2008, 10:02
Buddyboy, this pic is from the Scotland v England match at Ibrox on April 5th 1902. It is thought to be the only surviving picture of the inside of the ground on the day of the first Ibrox disaster. The wooden terracing collaped high up on the left hand side behind the goal.

http://i37.tinypic.com/3176vma.jpg

Torry_Gillick
14-11-2008, 10:03
http://i38.tinypic.com/34e812x.jpg

Copland Road terracing in the 1920's. Shirt & tie & flat cap compulsory.

borderbear
14-11-2008, 10:12
Buddyboy, this pic is from the Scotland v England match at Ibrox on April 5th 1902. It is thought to be the only surviving picture of the inside of the ground on the day of the first Ibrox disaster. The wooden terracing collaped high up on the left hand side behind the goal.

http://i37.tinypic.com/3176vma.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Disaster-ibroxi6.jpg

Torry_Gillick
14-11-2008, 10:46
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Disaster-ibroxi6.jpg

I know what you are getting at bb, but the other pic I am sure is the only one with the crowd in it, showing how overloaded the place was on the day. The crowd had actually ringed the pitch before the game had even started.

britain
14-11-2008, 11:08
Buddyboy, this pic is from the Scotland v England match at Ibrox on April 5th 1902. It is thought to be the only surviving picture of the inside of the ground on the day of the first Ibrox disaster. The wooden terracing collaped high up on the left hand side behind the goal.

http://i37.tinypic.com/3176vma.jpg

I think this picture is in Simon Inglis book about Archibald Leitch.

Torry_Gillick
14-11-2008, 20:29
I think this picture is in Simon Inglis book about Archibald Leitch.

It is, I scanned it and put it on tinypic.

The book is essential reading for any Gers fan, he designed other stands elsewhere, but the Ibrox main stand is probably the best of the bunch.

http://www.playedinbritain.co.uk/assets/covers/engineering-archie.jpg

There is a whole series of books which are fantastic for the nostalgia buffs. I've also read "Liquid Assets", which is all about Britain's open air swimming pools and lidos.

Sam_English
14-11-2008, 20:32
http://i38.tinypic.com/34e812x.jpg

Copland Road terracing in the 1920's. Shirt & tie & flat cap compulsory.


Could just imagine the scene on a very windy day. :)

Know Your Enemy
14-11-2008, 20:35
I cannot see one person without a hat!

There is a policeman's hat in amongst them all.(Hold that result it may be a Glengarry?)

I also never knew we had a half time scoreboard in those days as well.You learn something new etc.

mfgorm
14-11-2008, 21:28
Another fact about Archie Simon Inglis talks about book, apologies if someone's already mentioned it, he was a good Bluenose. Inglis suspects Archie did all his Rangers work as a labour of love.

That book is a great read for all football fans.

I remember the old ground too and have to say I don't miss it. The view now is better, much nearer the pitch and much higher and there are no pillars to obstruct your view. The top of the floodlights on the Derry are lower than lowest part of the roof of the Copland/Broomloan stands as the shed was still there when the Copland opened. I was a kid for most of the games I was at and to get a good view in a big game it was either balancing on 2 beer cans or sitting on a barrier.

It was scary getting out after a big game, especially at the Broomloan end where the exits all led out to Edmiston Dr.

The atmosphere was generally better though.

Anyone know when the tenements along Edmiston Dr at Copland Rd were demolished?

One thing I remember about before the M8 was built, there was an entrance to Bellahouston Park at the jucntion of PRW & Dumbreck Rd, where you could buy a programme and the Citizen "Souveneer Speshell". You can still see the path leading down in the park and it continued straight on to the gate.

An earlier post mentioned the lack of traffic. In the early 70s I used the 34 bus and sometimes waited over an hour at the Boulevard after a big game to get on one. Nowadays that bus is half empty after the match, but the amount of cars has increased by some amount.

arnietac1
14-11-2008, 21:42
http://i38.tinypic.com/34e812x.jpg

Copland Road terracing in the 1920's. Shirt & tie & flat cap compulsory.

A quite stunning pic showing the historical pull of the Rangers.
Now if i could go bak in time i would open a flat cap shop....instant millionaire.:D

Sam_English
14-11-2008, 21:45
Quite a few fans wearing bowler hats in that picture,perhaps there was a walk that day.

barcabear722000
14-11-2008, 22:42
amazing pics thanks to all who posted i remeber ibrox from the 70s with the derry end coverd and the centenary stand

second_pole
14-11-2008, 23:25
Quite a few fans wearing bowler hats in that picture,perhaps there was a walk that day.

Maybe a few foremen from the shipyards standing amongst their tradesmen, Sam?

There's a good chance my auld granda is in there somewhere with his workmates from Harland & Wolff.

AppleBear1976
15-11-2008, 01:36
http://i38.tinypic.com/34e812x.jpg

Copland Road terracing in the 1920's. Shirt & tie & flat cap compulsory.

question - what did you do if you needed a piss?? lol i assume not everyone just did it.... ha ha
also was there a 'subway' loyal back then?? ;)
it also looks ahem, very tight... :):D:o

britain
18-11-2008, 16:45
It is, I scanned it and put it on tinypic.

The book is essential reading for any Gers fan, he designed other stands elsewhere, but the Ibrox main stand is probably the best of the bunch.

http://www.playedinbritain.co.uk/assets/covers/engineering-archie.jpg

There is a whole series of books which are fantastic for the nostalgia buffs. I've also read "Liquid Assets", which is all about Britain's open air swimming pools and lidos.

Agree with you, this book IS essential reading for all Rangers fans.

It is simply one of the bestand most interesting football books I've read

There's a copy in the Paisley Central Library;)

britain
18-11-2008, 16:48
http://i38.tinypic.com/34e812x.jpg

Copland Road terracing in the 1920's. Shirt & tie & flat cap compulsory.

My old Grandpa is certainly in there :roll::D:eek:

adamski
18-11-2008, 16:52
It was the Mucky Duck

I remember getting off the 90 bus when it used to travel right along PRW before turning right and stop outside the Mucky Duck, with the wee plaster across it's arse, on my first visit to Ibrox, August 1985

Bullseye
18-11-2008, 17:20
One of the darker days.....

http://i33.tinypic.com/2wrm0bs.jpg

davyloyal
19-11-2008, 08:59
Shameless bump for this thread. Fantastic photies.

farley1968
19-11-2008, 12:40
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Disaster-ibroxi6.jpg


It's crazy to think that back in the day it was thought that this type of terrace was safe to stand on for thousands of people. I've got a drawing of the aftermath of the 1902 Disaster which I'll post once I fix my PC at home - sadly it's gone kaput

borderbear
19-11-2008, 13:41
Here's another from the 1902 disaster I found, while looking for more info on it.
As Farley says earlier, it's remarkable that a wooden structure like this was deemed safe enough to hold thousands of spectators.

http://i37.tinypic.com/fp7dp1.jpg

britain
20-11-2008, 07:45
I think theatres, music halls and cinemas all had safety legislation from the late 1880s.

Football Stadia on the other hand safety was generally paid 'lip service' until The Taylor Report.

I know Rangers were different, but it took until the tragic events of January 2nd 1971 and the drive and determination of Willie Waddell for Rangers to act.

britain
20-11-2008, 07:48
Has anybody got the capacity of the East and West Enclosures from 1978 until 1981 ?

I know after the 1978 - 81 Stadium reconstruction, they were 4,500 each.

Just haven't got the other figures to hand at moment.

farley1968
20-11-2008, 12:44
Has anybody got the capacity of the East and West Enclosures from 1978 until 1981 ?

I know after the 1978 - 81 Stadium reconstruction, they were 4,500 each.

Just haven't got the other figures to hand at moment.


The enclosures had room for 9,000 combined between both when they were built in 1928 - I would have thought that after the '78-'81 work, they would have been a good bit less, although the official figure seems to still have been 4,500. Is this just a case of them sticking with the original figure - after all there was a fairly hefty section at the curve which went.

Liviger
20-11-2008, 13:10
This is probably one of the best threads i've had the pleasure of reading on Follow Follow!!

Thanks to everyone who posted pictures & information....truly grateful.

(keep em coming folks!)


:D

REMEMBER THE WINK
20-11-2008, 15:16
Fantastic photos, how the hel did anybody breathe they were that tightly packed together.

JasonGers
20-11-2008, 15:25
Amazing pictures.

Would bring a tear to a glass eye.

britain
21-11-2008, 08:17
In 'Engineering Archie' page 183, it states that The Main Stand has a capacity of just under 10,500 and the Enclosure beneath was to hold 15,496 !

I'm still trying to work out the actual figures !!!

The Ibrox capacity went from 65,000 in 77/78 to 44,000 in 78/79 with the stadium reconstruction.

Yet I don't think the demolished Copland terracing and the main stand enclosure 'curve' that was also demolished held this figure of 21,000 !

davyloyal
21-11-2008, 09:00
In 'Engineering Archie' page 183, it states that The Main Stand has a capacity of just under 10,500 and the Enclosure beneath was to hold 15,496 !

I'm still trying to work out the actual figures !!!

The Ibrox capacity went from 65,000 in 77/78 to 44,000 in 78/79 with the stadium reconstruction.

Yet I don't think the demolished Copland terracing and the main stand enclosure 'curve' that was also demolished held this figure of 21,000 !

Working from memory, if the two new stands held 15,000 between them, the Govan 14,000, and the enclosure 9,000, this would mean the Main Stand would only have held 6,000. The figures don't add up.

Maybe it means "safely held", rather than what it could actually hold.

-ZED-
21-11-2008, 09:43
Working from memory, if the two new stands held 15,000 between them, the Govan 14,000, and the enclosure 9,000, this would mean the Main Stand would only have held 6,000. The figures don't add up.

Maybe it means "safely held", rather than what it could actually hold.

The New Ibrox held 44,500. Breakdown as follows (approx) -

Enclosure 9500
Main stand 10000
Govan 10400
Copland 7200
Broomloan 7200

davyloyal
21-11-2008, 09:52
The New Ibrox held 44,500. Breakdown as follows (approx) -

Enclosure 9500
Main stand 10000
Govan 10400
Copland 7200
Broomloan 7200

Where did I get the figure of 14,000 for the Govan? Something must have stuck in my head. Or maybe I'm numerically dyslexic, and got the numbers mixed up:D

britain
21-11-2008, 11:17
The Govan Stand held 10,300 when opened in 1981.

This replaced 'The Centenary Stand' which held 9,600.

The Copland and Broomloan Road Stands each held 7,500 when they opened in 1979 and 1980 respectively.

farley1968
21-11-2008, 11:28
The Govan Stand held 10,300 when opened in 1981.


What was the Govan Stand called before it was called The Govan Stand? :D

britain
21-11-2008, 11:35
What was the Govan Stand called before it was called The Govan Stand? :D

A building site:D:D:D

britain
22-11-2008, 21:21
Still can't find out those enclosure capacity stats and its doing my head in !!!

wild bill hickok
22-11-2008, 21:22
I love these threads. Well done to everyone!

britain
22-11-2008, 21:35
Just wondering if the 'flat cap' picture shown above, was taken from the old pavillion before it was demolished ?

Sam_English
22-11-2008, 21:37
What was the Govan Stand called before it was called The Govan Stand? :D

The North Stand.

second_pole
22-11-2008, 21:40
In 'Engineering Archie' page 183, it states that The Main Stand has a capacity of just under 10,500 and the Enclosure beneath was to hold 15,496 !
I'm still trying to work out the actual figures !!!

The Ibrox capacity went from 65,000 in 77/78 to 44,000 in 78/79 with the stadium reconstruction.

Yet I don't think the demolished Copland terracing and the main stand enclosure 'curve' that was also demolished held this figure of 21,000 !

Which means when the record attendance of 118,000 was achieved, there must have been around 92,000 standing on the old terracing that day:eek:

farley1968
23-11-2008, 20:10
Which means when the record attendance of 118,000 was achieved, there must have been around 92,000 standing on the old terracing that day:eek:
Aye and if the Enclosures did in fact hold a combined total of 9,000, then the total on the old terraces (apart from the Main Stand and Enclosures) was nearer 100,000 !

britain
24-11-2008, 07:28
Aye 100,000 plus the unofficial supporters. Those who gota lift over te turnstiles and never counted on teh official attendance. Goodness knows how many were actually in attendance that day.

The 118,000 given was the estimated attendances back then !!!

britain
25-11-2008, 08:09
There's a cracking picture of The Main Stand in Engineering Archie, page 183. I think it's dated 1928.

It's taken from approximately when the 1902 Disaster occurred.

Anybody able to scan it on ?

Sorry I'm 100% rubbish at these sort of things:o:o:D

Purplestar
25-11-2008, 08:47
Great thread lads .
Showing my age here , but do any of the guys in their 40s remember being able to pay into the Enclosure and then , if you wanted to pay 50p , you could go through the transfer turnstile and into the Derry ?
Remember also around 74/75 we would pay into the Derry and if Rangers lost the toss we would climb over a small wall at the centenary stand and go underneath it which allowed you to come out at the other terracing behind the goal at the beggars end and see Rangers attack the goals at that end.

davyloyal
25-11-2008, 08:55
Great thread lads .
Showing my age here , but do any of the guys in their 40s remember being able to pay into the Enclosure and then , if you wanted to pay 50p , you could go through the transfer turnstile and into the Derry ?
Remember also around 74/75 we would pay into the Derry and if Rangers lost the toss we would climb over a small wall at the centenary stand and go underneath it which allowed you to come out at the other terracing behind the goal at the beggars end and see Rangers attack the goals at that end.


I'm sure you could just walk round the back, i.e. no need to climb a wall.

Another thing, why would you pay extra to transfer from enclosure to Derry, as Enclosure was dearer than the Derry? I remember being able to pay to transfer from enclosure to Main Stand.

Purplestar
25-11-2008, 09:52
Sometimes got busier in Enclosure Davy and being a shortarse at the time we could go into the Rangers end and get a better view due to the highrt slopes of the terracing.

Purplestar
25-11-2008, 09:54
Could walk around the back but not sure if it was walled off from septic end mate.

johnlawrenceloyalek
25-11-2008, 10:33
Brilliant post ,stories and pictures. Brought back great memories. Thanks to all.

happytobeblue
25-11-2008, 11:45
Great thread lads .
Showing my age here , but do any of the guys in their 40s remember being able to pay into the Enclosure and then , if you wanted to pay 50p , you could go through the transfer turnstile and into the Derry ?
Remember also around 74/75 we would pay into the Derry and if Rangers lost the toss we would climb over a small wall at the centenary stand and go underneath it which allowed you to come out at the other terracing behind the goal at the beggars end and see Rangers attack the goals at that end.

I`m in my mid fifties,and can remember in 1964 paying 2 bob (10p) at the boys gate. In those days you could pay 7s and 6p (35p) for the enclosure,and 10 bob (50p) for the main stand. From memory these price remained unchanged for a few seasons.
You try telling the kids of today,and they won`t believe you.:D:D:D

ARMADALEBEAR
03-12-2008, 21:33
Crackin photos lads -Thanks:D

Col

britain
04-12-2008, 06:52
Just a wee bump to kee this thread going !

How long did it take the centenary stand to be adapted from the terraced enclosure to the bench seated stand of the mid -late 1970s ?

strathblue
04-12-2008, 07:06
Just a wee bump to kee this thread going !

How long did it take the centenary stand to be adapted from the terraced enclosure to the bench seated stand of the mid -late 1970s ?


It was completed in the close season of 73/74 and was not popular at all - with the main body of the singing support "The Derry" moving from there to the traditional Rangers end now of course the copland Rd stand.

Some of course preferred to remain like myself and thus both areas had singing sections.

britain
04-12-2008, 07:25
I remember my old man wasn't chuffed about it being changed.

It was bench seats if I remember and it was very cramped.

davyloyal
05-12-2008, 09:29
It was completed in the close season of 73/74 and was not popular at all - with the main body of the singing support "The Derry" moving from there to the traditional Rangers end now of course the copland Rd stand.

Some of course preferred to remain like myself and thus both areas had singing sections.

No - it was there in 72/73 (not sure if it was an "overnight" job partway through the season, or if it was for the opening of the 72/73 season).

britain
05-12-2008, 11:15
Just wished I'd taken more notice when Ionsadad had the Rangers News with these changes to Ibrox in them, when they were on here a while ago.

The Jeanie
05-12-2008, 11:19
http://i33.tinypic.com/1622yqf.jpg

This is my favourite.

I can actually get lost in this picture.

Just wonderful.

I can't see the ASDA in that picture!:confused: Can anyone guide me to where it is?

BODiE
05-12-2008, 11:28
I can't see the ASDA in that picture!:confused: Can anyone guide me to where it is?

http://i33.tinypic.com/e9ur6t.jpg

farley1968
05-12-2008, 12:30
No - it was there in 72/73 (not sure if it was an "overnight" job partway through the season, or if it was for the opening of the 72/73 season).


Pretty sure this was done in 1973 - not sure at which stage of the year though - will look later tonight when I get home.


Anyone got any more photos to show - c'mon there's bound to be 1,000's tucked away in old shoeboxes, get them out and onto FF. :D

Job No.86/20
05-12-2008, 12:31
This architect's drawing from the Stadium Development Brochure shows the new stands drawn on top of the old terraces. It was often said that the person sitting in the back row of the upper Copland or Broomloan stands would be closer to the pitch than a person standing at the wall at the bottom of the old terraces - not quite but not far off!

Not many signs of the old terraces are left, but the old wall marking the edge of the Club's property still exists today, at the Broomloan end. It's the old red brick wall which all the TV Lorries etc sit in front of on match days - easiest to see if you exit out onto the Broomloan Road, past the Ticket Hut!

http://i38.tinypic.com/np52rm.jpg


nice image farley, what a difference comparing new to old

Job No.86/20
05-12-2008, 12:41
http://i33.tinypic.com/e9ur6t.jpg

just down from the new shops, personally i think parking improvements were ahead of their time!!;)

http://i35.tinypic.com/2i6knt1.jpg

britain
05-12-2008, 16:27
http://i33.tinypic.com/1622yqf.jpg

This is my favourite.

I can actually get lost in this picture.

Just wonderful.

In this picture above , hasn't the terracing at the Broomlaon Road end been fully concreted ?

Just wondering if that was the difference in the picture in the shades of colour on that terracing !

farley1968
05-12-2008, 18:06
In this picture above , hasn't the terracing at the Broomlaon Road end been fully concreted ?

Just wondering if that was the difference in the picture in the shades of colour on that terracing !

Picture is from about 1962 when the terraces were being concreted - part of the £150,000 modernisation work being done after the 2 deaths in 1961. The lighter colour seems to be the new concreted steps and the darker is the older ash and cinder steps. There seem to be a lot of aerial photos from about that time when the terraces were partly concreted.

The photo below clearly shows the ash and cinder steps and these were concreted in 1962/63.

http://i35.tinypic.com/16m96ad.jpg

britain
05-12-2008, 21:29
Picture is from about 1962 when the terraces were being concreted - part of the 150,000 modernisation work being done after the 2 deaths in 1961. The lighter colour seems to be the new concreted steps and the darker is the older ash and cinder steps. There seem to be a lot of aerial photos from about that time when the terraces were partly concreted.

The photo below clearly shows the ash and cinder steps and these were concreted in 1962/63.

http://i35.tinypic.com/16m96ad.jpg

Cheers mate. I thought that was what it might be.
150,000 was alot of money for those days to be spent on modernisation of a football ground, particularly in Scotland.

The other thing in these pics is the way the north enclosure has developed with, in the end, 3 different roofs joining to form the one complete roof.

This only finally being demolished in 1980.

shipscook
06-12-2008, 10:49
I also remember in the late 60's early seventies being 'lifted over' and walking around from the old Derry to the Celtic end at half time.
Must be showing my age.

Sam_English
06-12-2008, 10:51
I found another couple of old photo's from the Airdrie game in 1975.

I'll get them scanned and posted up through the week.

KilwinningBlue
06-12-2008, 10:58
http://i33.tinypic.com/1622yqf.jpg

This is my favourite.

I can actually get lost in this picture.

Just wonderful.

There are 2 other sports grounds in this pic, can anyone tell me what they are/were?

borderbear
06-12-2008, 11:03
I found another couple of old photo's from the Airdrie game in 1975.

I'll get them scanned and posted up through the week.

The party that went a wee bit flat :(

jimren
06-12-2008, 11:04
Nearest to Ibrox the Albion the other White City. Both Dog tracks with football size pitches. Glasgow tigers Speedway used White City in the 50s/60s.

KilwinningBlue
06-12-2008, 11:04
Nearest to Ibrox the Albion the other White City. Both Dog tracks with football size pitches. Glasgow tigers Speedway used White City in the 50s/60s.

Any football played on them? Why white city?

jimren
06-12-2008, 11:08
Cant recall any games played at them. Think it's named after the one in London but some other goalden oldie might know more.

KilwinningBlue
06-12-2008, 11:22
Cheers for the info old boy ;)

Sam_English
06-12-2008, 11:26
The party that went a wee bit flat :(
Aye- a 1-0 win for Airdrie that day

farley1968
06-12-2008, 12:14
Aye- a 1-0 win for Airdrie that day

I think I'm right in saying that the programme for that day included a songsheet with certain Rangers songs on it - I've got the programme but not the songsheet - anyone got it - what songs were on it?

Sam_English
06-12-2008, 12:16
I think I'm right in saying that the programme for that day included a songsheet with certain Rangers songs on it - I've got the programme but not the songsheet - anyone got it - what songs were on it?
I'm sure i still have my copy lying around somewhere, i'll check it out

roddy the proddy
06-12-2008, 12:32
http://i33.tinypic.com/1622yqf.jpg

This is my favourite.

I can actually get lost in this picture.

Just wonderful.

Absolutely superb for a govan boy to look at that

IAN WATP
06-12-2008, 13:16
great thread,Why did the derry end get its name and when?
WATP

britain
06-12-2008, 20:29
I think I'm right in saying that the programme for that day included a songsheet with certain Rangers songs on it - I've got the programme but not the songsheet - anyone got it - what songs were on it?

Think there were only about 10,000 song sheets printed that day.
The official attendance being given as 65,000. (Aye plus the 30,000 odd who got a lift over the turnstiles.

Be great to see this songsheet on here !

britain
11-12-2008, 08:03
Nice couple of photos of Ibrox pre 1978 on the Rangers V Airdrie 1975 thread.

How packed did Ibrox look and it was packed out that day !

Dunno how they got the 65,000 attendance figure that day.
( It was nearer 95,000 according to my old man. ) Was that 65,000 figure just those who 'officially' paid at the gate ?!

What was our official capacity for 74/75 and 75/76 ?

We'd 71,000 for Celtc in January 1975 ( 3 - 0 ) and 69,000 for the opening Premier League game v Celtc in August 75.

davyloyal
11-12-2008, 08:35
Pretty sure this was done in 1973 - not sure at which stage of the year though - will look later tonight when I get home.


Anyone got any more photos to show - c'mon there's bound to be 1,000's tucked away in old shoeboxes, get them out and onto FF. :D

When I'm thinking back now Farley, I seem to remember a photie of Bud being sent off against Thistle (early in 72/73 season, and just before his departure to WBA), with the old Derry in the background. However, as the Centenary Stand was definitely there by the season's end, it must have been late 72/early 73. Ready for the Ajax game in January 73 maybe? I'm trying to think if it was there for the Ne-erday game, but my memory's a bit cloudy at the moment.

farley1968
12-12-2008, 12:00
When I'm thinking back now Farley, I seem to remember a photie of Bud being sent off against Thistle (early in 72/73 season, and just before his departure to WBA), with the old Derry in the background. However, as the Centenary Stand was definitely there by the season's end, it must have been late 72/early 73. Ready for the Ajax game in January 73 maybe? I'm trying to think if it was there for the Ne-erday game, but my memory's a bit cloudy at the moment.

Just had a look at Stephen Halliday's book on Rangers - photo of the team lined up before the Centenary game vs Arsenal on 20th August 1973 - Centenary Stand is there

There is also a photo of Greig and Cruyff before the Ajax game in Jan 1973 but it's had to make out whether the punters are seated or not.

Regards the Ajax game - Willie Waddell organised this as we were banned from Europe for that season and this was the first ever European Super Cup game, but did this match also play part of our Centenary Celebrations?

marstonbear
12-12-2008, 12:26
Regards the Ajax game - Willie Waddell organised this as we were banned from Europe for that season and this was the first ever European Super Cup game, but did this match also play part of our Centenary Celebrations?

Yes, it did. I believe some legendary older players took the kick-off, one of whom was Andy Cunningham

farley1968
12-12-2008, 12:29
Yes, it did. I believe some legendary older players took the kick-off, one of whom was Andy Cunningham


Correct and the other was Jock "Tiger" Shaw

GirvanLighthouse
14-12-2008, 22:34
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9128/80721984yh6.png

rangeral
14-12-2008, 22:38
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9128/80721984yh6.png

Not Ibrox, Goodison Park

britain
17-12-2008, 05:56
Just found out that there were plans to increase the capacity of Ibrox to 200,000 in the 1930s.

I think Archibald Leitch would have been involved and there were plans for a railway station at the back of where the covered enclsure was situated.

Sam_English
17-12-2008, 07:19
Just found out that there were plans to increase the capacity of Ibrox to 200,000 in the 1930s.

I think Archibald Leitch would have been involved and there were plans for a railway station at the back of where the covered enclsure was situated.

Where did you find this,britain ?

davyloyal
17-12-2008, 08:18
Where did you find this,britain ?

I remember reading this as well. It must have been in one of the older books. Plans were actually drawn up, but then some wee crazy Austrian had his own plans for European domination, and it all went haywire.

Gaffer
17-12-2008, 12:58
http://i33.tinypic.com/1622yqf.jpg

This is my favourite.

I can actually get lost in this picture.

Just wonderful.

Totally agree magic picture I can see my old hoose and the one i am in now.
:D:D

Gaffer
17-12-2008, 13:08
What 2 grounds are beside the gas tower on the left of the photo?
White City and the Albion

thevietnambear
17-12-2008, 13:27
That is a great pic. Surprised at the amount of womanfolk in it. You did not go out the door without a hat on in those days :D


This was a meeting attended by that bassa Winston Churchill :mad:

loyd_grossman
17-12-2008, 13:36
I'm sure it was the summer of 1972 that the Derry was concreted over. Rember sitting in in in 72/73 season for a 2-1 win over Dundeee United. Biggest crowds I remember during the 70's was 80,000 for John Grieg's testimonial against a Scotland select (Rangers won 5-0) and the very first game of the newly formed Premier League in 1976, against the flith which we won 2-1.

britain
17-12-2008, 14:12
Where did you find this,britain ?

Sam found it on page 120 of 'The Rangers Miscellany' by Robert McElroy.

'The railway line actually ran behind the North Terrace (site today of the Govan Stand) and in the 1930s plans were drawn up to extend the ground to a capacity of some 200,000 with the proposals including the Terrace with a new 'platform halt' built to allow direct access to the stand. The platform was not implemented though.

britain
17-12-2008, 15:12
The total capacity of Ibrox after the opening of the Main Stand in 1929 was measured to be 139,940 !

mummymonkey
17-12-2008, 15:14
With reference to an earlier question about the M8; there is some good info about the old Renfrew Airport at this site.

http://www.myrenfrew.com/renaviation.htm

Sam_English
17-12-2008, 15:27
Sam found it on page 120 of 'The Rangers Miscellany' by Robert McElroy.

'The railway line actually ran behind the North Terrace (site today of the Govan Stand) and in the 1930s plans were drawn up to extend the ground to a capacity of some 200,000 with the proposals including the Terrace with a new 'platform halt' built to allow direct access to the stand. The platform was not implemented though.

Cheers,mate.

I'm sure i have a copy of that book somewhere as well

britain
17-12-2008, 15:35
Sam, I'm sure this info was in another Robert McElroy publication.

Perhaps either The Rangers Historian or one of the histories of the club that he's written.

Sam_English
17-12-2008, 15:37
Sam, I'm sure this info was in another Robert McElroy publication.

Perhaps either The Rangers Historian or one of the histories of the club that he's written.

Okay mate,cheers.

farley1968
17-12-2008, 15:48
Here's one I hadn't seen until recently. The extension going onto the North Enclosure roof in the summer of 1954.


http://i44.tinypic.com/1zb9toz.jpg