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williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 01:47
The Rangers who else,Looked at all the big crowds over the years and despite
having many 90,000 + crowds at Ibrox and being the only club Ground to do so (ignoring the lies from the scum,who turned 83 to 92)I decided to find out about 100,000 + crowds that were mainly at cup finals and semies but a few like the four games at Ibrox two cup ties and two league games against Hibs and them,what stands out is how far ahead we are from the rest.



The list below gives the amount of times each club has played in front of a crowd of 100,000 or more in the UK -

41 Rangers
26 Celtic
12 Man United
10 Liverpool
9 Aberdeen, Spurs
7 Arsenal,Newcastle
6 Aston Villa, West Ham, Man City, Everton, Hibernian,
4 Notts Forest, Leeds, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Morton,
3 Sunderland, Bolton, Wolverhampton, Leicester, Chelsea, Norwich, St Mirren,Hearts,
2 Blackpool, West Brom, Preston, Southampton, Brighton, Clyde, East Fife,
Dundee, Dunfermline, Eintract Frankfurt,
1 Sheffield United, Birmingham, Luton, Blackburn, Burnley, Sheffield
Wed, Fulham, Ipswich, QPR, Watford, Stoke, Benfica, Munich 1860, Real Madrid

Note 14 of their games were against us.

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 02:05
In four games in the Scottish cup in 1947-48, 499,295 people turned up to watch us beat East Fife 90,000 at Ibrox,Hibs at Hampden in the semi final where 143,570 turned up and the two finals with Morton 131,975 and 133,750,bloody amazing.

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 03:17
Anybody know the last time we played in front of a 100,000 crowd?

will_smith_uk
29-12-2007, 03:19
where did ye get yer stats, mate?

Interesting stuff.

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 03:22
where did ye get yer stats, mate?

Interesting stuff.

The Rangers stuff from my own personal library and the rest from various
internet sites,im quite a student before I crack open the stella.:D

72 Blue
29-12-2007, 03:22
where did ye get yer stats, mate?

Interesting stuff.

Aff the back of a broon envelope. :D

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 03:24
Aff the back of a broon envelope. :D

Ah canny bring my library to work can I.:D

will_smith_uk
29-12-2007, 03:25
The Rangers stuff from my own personal library and the rest from various
internet sites,im quite a student before I crack open the stella.:D

Excellent mate. I like it. Wish i had the patience (and the time) to get involved in stuff like this. Must take up a fair whack of your spare time.

72 Blue
29-12-2007, 03:27
Ah canny bring my library to work can I.:D

I'm only teasin' bud. I wondered what you were up to when I saw you with it though. I thought one of the Lassies had passed you a wee dirty note. ;)

>:) >:)

ibetudid
29-12-2007, 03:39
Well done on the stat gathering, sir!
Also, if my late night basic maths is correct, then only 70 games that have been played on uk soil (with above 100,000 att.) without us involved - out of 111 total!

smartass loyal :)

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 03:58
Anybody know the last time we played in front of a 100,000 crowd?

A clue, it was in 1987 but against who?.

ibetudid
29-12-2007, 04:02
A clue, it was in 1987 but against who?.

are you sure that was in the UK?

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 04:04
are you sure that was in the UK?

Not in the UK,just the last time we played in a 100,000 crowd.

Not so fast Mr Tennant
29-12-2007, 04:06
That was Dinamo Kiev.

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 04:09
That was Dinamo Kiev.

Correct mate,it just fascinates me when we see the size of stadiums now,the beggers on about their 60,000 as if its amazing when we know it aint.;)

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 04:21
A lot of stats have us at 40 but they forgot the victory cup final in 1945-46
against Hibs which we won 3-1 and the same year 135,000 were at the league cup final against the sheep where we lost 3-2.

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 04:53
The four games at Ibrox, 1938-39 Rangers 2 scum 1 118,730 in the league,1948-49 Rangers 2 scum 1 again in the league cup 105,000,1949-50 Rangers v Hibs 0-0 101,000 league game,1950-51 Scottish cup Rangers 2 Hibs 3 102,342.

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 05:14
In four games in the Scottish cup in 1947-48, 499,295 people turned up to watch us beat East Fife 90,000 at Ibrox,Hibs at Hampden in the semi final where 143,570 turned up and the two finals with Morton 131,975 and 133,750,bloody amazing.

Unrepetantly bumping this again:D the following season we had 104,000 against East Fife in a semi final and 120,162 against Clyde in the final,oh and 105,000 against the scum in a league cup tie at Ibrox,we truely are the biggest supported club in the land,no danger.

Its a feckin wan man show here but the following season 1949-50 we had 101,000 agains Hibs in the league and 120,015 against East Fife in the Scottish cup final,are yeez getting how big we really are people or should I go on.:D

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 05:27
Only four football stadiums in the UK have held over 100,000,Hampden Wembley Ibrox and surprising to me the Crystal palace ground.


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72 Blue
29-12-2007, 06:16
This post reflects that ( as much as I think Ibrox is a wonderful stadium ) the original plans for the Ibrox rebuild were not well thought out circa 72.

Ibrox was the blueprint for many clubs who looked at it and thought " I want one" . It was the envy of many but should have been and could be so much better.

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 06:19
Unrepetantly bumping this again:D the following season we had 104,000 against East Fife in a semi final and 120,162 against Clyde in the final,oh and 105,000 against the scum in a league cup tie at Ibrox,we truely are the biggest supported club in the land,no danger.

Its a feckin wan man show here but the following season 1949-50 we had 101,000 agains Hibs in the league and 120,015 against East Fife in the Scottish cup final,are yeez getting how big we really are people or should I go on.:D

Alright then 1950-51 102,342 at Ibrox in a league game against Hibs,1952-53 116,262 against Hearts in a semi final and 129,762 against the sheep in the Scottish cup final
that went to a replay where only a 113,700 watched us win 1-0,dont make me go on.:D

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 06:27
This post reflects that ( as much as I think Ibrox is a wonderful stadium ) the original plans for the Ibrox rebuild were not well thought out circa 72.

Ibrox was the blueprint for many clubs who looked at it and thought " I want one" . It was the envy of many but should have been and could be so much better.

It doesnt meet near the demand and size this club really is support wise in this country and beyond,we are feckin massive and could fill Ibrox 4 times over and the rest.

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 06:41
Alright then 1950-51 102,342 at Ibrox in a league game,1952-53 116,262 against Hearts in a semi final and 129,762 against the sheep in the Scottish cup final
that went to a replay where only a 113,700 watched us win 1-0,dont make me go on.:D

1953-54 Scottish cup semi final v the sheep 110,939.

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 07:02
The first 100,000 + crowd in 1924-25 was a semi final against them and I wont say the score 101,714,1927-28 was the next a cup final we won 4-0
easily against the vermin and 118,115 went home happy,well most of them.

The following season 114,780 saw us lose to Kilmarnock 2-0 but the next season we got things right when we played Partick Thistle over two games
in 1929-30 107,475 at the draw and 103,688 saw us win the replay 2-1.

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 07:15
1933-34 we beat StMirren 5-0 in front of a 113,403 crowd and the year later we drew with Hearts in front in front of 102,661,the replay which we won was a dissapointing 90,428 take it the jambos didnae turn up.:D

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 07:28
Before the war there were just two more,both at Ibrox in 1936-37 there was 95,000 at Ibrox against the scum and the following year 83,500 an actual record for the piggery I know there under 100k but I thought facts should prevail,and 1938-39 a British record for a league game was set at Ibrox park when The Rangers beat the scum 2-1 118,730.

williamstown1690
29-12-2007, 07:36
I will resume this most interesting thread after the bears dispose of Hibernian
and I awake from my slumber and get to work,its the only peace I get.:)

Here comes the 60s.

Jelle1880
29-12-2007, 10:35
I got a book with several pictures of Rangers playing in front of 100.000+ crowds, that's just amazing.

RangersAndBalloch
29-12-2007, 10:52
Not in the UK,just the last time we played in a 100,000 crowd.

I was sure from memory there were 100,000 at the Centenary game against Arsenal(They charged admission prices from 1873), but have since read on FF it was much less.

Shields Bear
29-12-2007, 11:08
I will resume this most interesting thread after the bears dispose of Hibernian
and I awake from my slumber and get to work,its the only peace I get.:)

Here comes the 60s.

Some very interesting facts there mate.You should write a book.

3g
29-12-2007, 11:22
Great stats, Williamstown. Another interesting fact would be to ask how many on FF have actually been to a 100.000 plus game? I've been to a few. They could be scary - the sway of the crowd, the occasional attempts to hoist one's arms above the head could be somewhat difficult, particularly as a wee boy, I always had to find two empty beer cans before the match. So I tended to struggle at these games, firstly by balancing on the cans, and secondly, always trying to get near a barrier to lean up against. Having said that, if we scored against the green and grey you'd often find yersel some ten or more feet away from where you started, and nae mare cans to stand on. But it was worth it.

RangersAndBalloch
29-12-2007, 11:28
Great stats, Williamstown. Another interesting fact would be to ask how many on FF have actually been to a 100.000 plus game? I've been to a few. They could be scary - the sway of the crowd, the occasional attempts to hoist one's arms above the head could be somewhat difficult, particularly as a wee boy, I always had to find two empty beer cans before the match. So I tended to struggle at these games, firstly by balancing on the cans, and secondly, always trying to get near a barrier to lean up against. Having said that, if we scored against the green and grey you'd often find yersel some ten or more feet away from where you started, and nae mare cans to stand on. But it was worth it.

Been to a few and as you say, could be really scary.

farley1968
29-12-2007, 11:38
Good post - you might be interested in the following which I posed on here a while back:

The 1973 Scottish Cup Final attracted a crowd of 122,714 to Hampden Park. It was the Centenary Cup Final and a classic at that. The Rangers recorded a 3-2 victory over Celtic. It was The Rangers first Scottish Cup success for seven years.


It was also the 96th and last time a crowd of over 100,000 people attended a football match played in Scotland - indeed since then, in the whole of the UK there has not been a crowd anywhere near that figure.

Of those 96 occasions, 92 had been at Hampden Park with the remaining four at Ibrox, including the British record for a League match when 118,730 watched The Rangers beat Celtic 2-1 on 2nd January 1939.
The Rangers had featured more than any other club in the "big" attendances with a total of 39 appearances. Scotland had been present for 37 and England and Celtic shared third place with 29 appearances each.

Four years later, a much smaller crowd watched the 1977 Scottish Cup Final where Celtic defeated Rangers 1-0. Only 54,252 turned up to see this showpiece of the season.

Where had the 68,462 missing fans gone who had been present only four years earlier?

The Rangers' crowds during the 1960's had remained reasonably steady with an average of somewhere between 29,000 and 35,000. On only one season did the average fall badly - 1965-66 where they averaged 24,441. On only 2 occasions during the decade did The Rangers average fall below Celtic's - 1966-67 and 1968-69 - and on most occasions especially during the early years of the 60's Ibrox crowds were at least 50% up on those at Celtic Park. Then as now, most club's attendances were directly linked to success on the field and what the punters viewed as value for money.

As the 1970 dawned, crowds began to fall at all grounds across the land. Rangers through this decade averaged between 20,000 and 30,000. The 1975-76 season gave them their decades highest with 30,648. This was the first season of the new Premier League structure and the figures may be slightly misleading as it included in the average two gates against Celtic and the other bigger clubs. However that season saw the first Old Firm match at Ibrox produce a crowd of 70,964 - the last time a crowd of that size attended a league match at Ibrox or indeed anywhere in Scotland. Incidentally it is recorded that on that day The Rangers had 3,062 season ticket holders. 30 years previous they had around the 2,000 mark but 30 years later the number of punters who had season books was 40,000.

In the two years of the Cup Finals mentioned, average crowds were still in the 20,000's. In 1972-73 Rangers averaged 27,469 with Celtic slightly behind on 26,606. By 1976-77 Celtic had risen slightly to 28,063 whilst Rangers had fallen to 21,692.

A combined average of the two clubs shows a fall from 54,000 to 49,000 - not a massive drop - so where did the missing 68,462 at Hampden go?

What were the reasons for this?

Many people point to violence at football matches throughout the 1970's. Disturbances and pitch invasions were common all over the UK and in matches involving either half of the Old Firm.

The Ibrox Disaster and general safety at football grounds may have played a part but throughout the decade The Rangers had a higher average on three seasons than they did for the 1970-71 season.

Unemployment was on the rise and industrial action at times was bringing the country to a standstill.

People had more leisure time in the 1970's and a wider choice of activities to spend it on - for some, gone were the days of " Every other Saturday's my half day off and it's off to the match I go"

Families were moving further and further apart and no longer lived in the same street. Three generations of families probably still went to the game together but not in the numbers of previous years.

Television undoubtedly played a role in the 1977 crowd. It was the first Scottish Cup Final to be shown live since 1955.

Crowds continued to fall and The Rangers recorded their lowest average for 60 years in the 1981-82 season where an average of only 16,400 turned up at Ibrox to see the team. It wasn't until 4 years later that a dramatic increase in crowds was seen. That was due massively to David Holmes and his appointment of Graeme Souness, who was to turn around the club's fortunes.

Since the 1996-67 season Rangers have played to average crowds of 47,000 or higher each season. They now play in front of higher average crowds than at any time in their history. The previous highest was the 1949-50 season when the figure stood at 44,993 who would turn up loyally to watch the likes of Young, Shaw,Cox,Waddell and Woodburn.

One final note, in the 100 or so years from 1905 to 2005, The Rangers have been watched by the highest crowds in Scotland on 67 occasions as opposed to 22 for Celtic ( 7 of which have been since the new Celtic Park was opened). Indeed in the 60 odd years from 1905 -1966, Rangers were only beaten for highest average on 7 occasions.


As both Old Firm clubs have at least 80% season ticket holders, the grounds of today are normally almost full for each fixture. Nowadays attandances are more stable and as grounds are much smaller we are unlikely ever to see such as massive difference between two finals as we did in 1977.

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magpieranger
29-12-2007, 11:49
Don't know where you got this information from but I can think of at least 6 times Newcastle have played in matches where the official attendance has been 100,000.

Blackpool 1951 FA Cup Final
Arsenal 1952 FA Cup Final
Man City 1955 FA Cup Final
Liverpool 1974 FA Cup Final
Man City 1976 FA Cup Final
Dynamo Kiev 1997 Champions League group match

williamstown1690
30-12-2007, 00:34
Don't know where you got this information from but I can think of at least 6 times Newcastle have played in matches where the official attendance has been 100,000.

Blackpool 1951 FA Cup Final
Arsenal 1952 FA Cup Final
Man City 1955 FA Cup Final
Liverpool 1974 FA Cup Final
Man City 1976 FA Cup Final
Dynamo Kiev 1997 Champions League group match

Did wonder about the Newcastle one,as I said the list was from an English site that had Rangers at 40 and it should have been 41,but your right about Newcastle although the 1976 game was in the league cup,call yourself a magpie.:)

HelicopterSunday
30-12-2007, 00:52
williamstown1690 and Farley1968

Great stuff guys, some of which I knew and some I was blissfully unaware of. Thanks for educating the masses.

piesnchips
30-12-2007, 01:18
always had a soft spot for Sheff Wed and see you only put them down for one game over 100,000. I remember they played four times at Wembley in one season. Once was a sold out semi against Sheff Utd, league cup final against Arsenal and then FA Cup final and replay against Arsenal. You sure about your English stats?

williamstown1690
30-12-2007, 01:45
always had a soft spot for Sheff Wed and see you only put them down for one game over 100,000. I remember they played four times at Wembley in one season. Once was a sold out semi against Sheff Utd, league cup final against Arsenal and then FA Cup final and replay against Arsenal. You sure about your English stats?

The list is from an English fans site mate,dont think they are 100 % accurate as the Newcastle one shows,but the Rangers ones are what this is about.

The Treble Kings
30-12-2007, 01:46
always had a soft spot for Sheff Wed and see you only put them down for one game over 100,000. I remember they played four times at Wembley in one season. Once was a sold out semi against Sheff Utd, league cup final against Arsenal and then FA Cup final and replay against Arsenal. You sure about your English stats?


None of those games pulled in 100,000, I can assure you. Wembley didn't hold that then.

williamstown1690
30-12-2007, 02:24
Good post - you might be interested in the following which I posed on here a while back:

The 1973 Scottish Cup Final attracted a crowd of 122,714 to Hampden Park. It was the Centenary Cup Final and a classic at that. The Rangers recorded a 3-2 victory over Celtic. It was The Rangers first Scottish Cup success for seven years.


It was also the 96th and last time a crowd of over 100,000 people attended a football match played in Scotland - indeed since then, in the whole of the UK there has not been a crowd anywhere near that figure.

Of those 96 occasions, 92 had been at Hampden Park with the remaining four at Ibrox, including the British record for a League match when 118,730 watched The Rangers beat Celtic 2-1 on 2nd January 1939.
The Rangers had featured more than any other club in the "big" attendances with a total of 39 appearances. Scotland had been present for 37 and England and Celtic shared third place with 29 appearances each.

Four years later, a much smaller crowd watched the 1977 Scottish Cup Final where Celtic defeated Rangers 1-0. Only 54,252 turned up to see this showpiece of the season.

Where had the 68,462 missing fans gone who had been present only four years earlier?

The Rangers' crowds during the 1960's had remained reasonably steady with an average of somewhere between 29,000 and 35,000. On only one season did the average fall badly - 1965-66 where they averaged 24,441. On only 2 occasions during the decade did The Rangers average fall below Celtic's - 1966-67 and 1968-69 - and on most occasions especially during the early years of the 60's Ibrox crowds were at least 50% up on those at Celtic Park. Then as now, most club's attendances were directly linked to success on the field and what the punters viewed as value for money.

As the 1970 dawned, crowds began to fall at all grounds across the land. Rangers through this decade averaged between 20,000 and 30,000. The 1975-76 season gave them their decades highest with 30,648. This was the first season of the new Premier League structure and the figures may be slightly misleading as it included in the average two gates against Celtic and the other bigger clubs. However that season saw the first Old Firm match at Ibrox produce a crowd of 70,964 - the last time a crowd of that size attended a league match at Ibrox or indeed anywhere in Scotland. Incidentally it is recorded that on that day The Rangers had 3,062 season ticket holders. 30 years previous they had around the 2,000 mark but 30 years later the number of punters who had season books was 40,000.

In the two years of the Cup Finals mentioned, average crowds were still in the 20,000's. In 1972-73 Rangers averaged 27,469 with Celtic slightly behind on 26,606. By 1976-77 Celtic had risen slightly to 28,063 whilst Rangers had fallen to 21,692.

A combined average of the two clubs shows a fall from 54,000 to 49,000 - not a massive drop - so where did the missing 68,462 at Hampden go?

What were the reasons for this?

Many people point to violence at football matches throughout the 1970's. Disturbances and pitch invasions were common all over the UK and in matches involving either half of the Old Firm.

The Ibrox Disaster and general safety at football grounds may have played a part but throughout the decade The Rangers had a higher average on three seasons than they did for the 1970-71 season.

Unemployment was on the rise and industrial action at times was bringing the country to a standstill.

People had more leisure time in the 1970's and a wider choice of activities to spend it on - for some, gone were the days of " Every other Saturday's my half day off and it's off to the match I go"

Families were moving further and further apart and no longer lived in the same street. Three generations of families probably still went to the game together but not in the numbers of previous years.

Television undoubtedly played a role in the 1977 crowd. It was the first Scottish Cup Final to be shown live since 1955.

Crowds continued to fall and The Rangers recorded their lowest average for 60 years in the 1981-82 season where an average of only 16,400 turned up at Ibrox to see the team. It wasn't until 4 years later that a dramatic increase in crowds was seen. That was due massively to David Holmes and his appointment of Graeme Souness, who was to turn around the club's fortunes.

Since the 1996-67 season Rangers have played to average crowds of 47,000 or higher each season. They now play in front of higher average crowds than at any time in their history. The previous highest was the 1949-50 season when the figure stood at 44,993 who would turn up loyally to watch the likes of Young, Shaw,Cox,Waddell and Woodburn.

One final note, in the 100 or so years from 1905 to 2005, The Rangers have been watched by the highest crowds in Scotland on 67 occasions as opposed to 22 for Celtic ( 7 of which have been since the new Celtic Park was opened). Indeed in the 60 odd years from 1905 -1966, Rangers were only beaten for highest average on 7 occasions.


As both Old Firm clubs have at least 80% season ticket holders, the grounds of today are normally almost full for each fixture. Nowadays attandances are more stable and as grounds are much smaller we are unlikely ever to see such as massive difference between two finals as we did in 1977.

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Good piece mate,my first ever cup final was the 73 one and its true the all seater with the season tickets was a godsend for the chairmen at both Rangers and them with steady decent crowds guaranteed every week,and
as said most of the great crowds were in the Scottish cups and semis played at Hampden.

williamstown1690
30-12-2007, 02:42
It was another 6 years later 1959-60 Scottish cup final when we had 108,017 to watch us beat Kilmarnock,1961-62 127,940 turned up when we beat St Mirren and there was also a friendly at Hampden against Eintracht 104,679 the largest crowd for a friendly match.

williamstown1690
30-12-2007, 03:08
the rest

1962-63 Scottish cup final and replay against them 129,643 and 120,273

1963-64 120,982 Scottish cup final against Dundee and 105,907 against Morton league cup final

65-66 Scottish cup final 126,599 against them and 98,202 in the replay,107,609 league cup final against them as well.

1968-69 132,870 Scottish cup final v them

1970-71 120,092 + replay 103,332,Scottish cup final and 106,263 in the DJ league cup final,all against them.

And finally the 1972-73 Scottish cup final 122,714.

williamstown1690
30-12-2007, 06:23
85,000 + crowds at Ibrox better than the piggery
1919-1920 85,000 v them = blank
1931-32 88,000 v Motherwell
1936-37 95,000
1938-38 118,730
1945-46 90,000,95,000 v Moscow Dynamo
1946-47 95,000 v Hibs 85,000.
1947-48 90,000 v East Fife
1948-49 95,000,105,000
1949-50 101,000 v Hibs,95,000
1950-51 104,242 v Hibs
1952-53 95,000
1957-58 85,000 v StEtienne 85,000 v AC Millan.
1960-61 90,000 v Motherwell
1967-68 90,000,94,168,85,000 v Leeds Utd
1968-69 85,000
1970-71 85,000
1971-72 85,000

williamstown1690
31-07-2008, 02:44
Brought this old thread back up,just starting with A so its Aberdeen


After the first World war games between Rangers and Aberdeen were attracting an average of 20-25,000 at pittodrie higher than the crowds
at Ibrox when the two met each other at the time,the liking for Rangers
was countrywide and the 30s when Aberdeen became a top half side more often the crowds swelled in both grounds.
crowd going to old pittodrie

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1929-30 36,000 at pitt
1935-36 34,500 and 41,663 both at pitt,last one in cup.
1936-37 60,000 at Ibrox and 30,000 at pitt
1945-46 southern league games 66,000 at Ibrox and 35,000 at pitt
southern league cup final 135,000 at Hampden.
1946-47 60,000 at Ibrox and 35,000 at pitt,league cup final hampden 82,684
1947-48 43,800 at pitt
1948-49 42,000 at pitt
1949-50 40,000 at pitt and 50,000 at Ibrox + 2 league cup games 43,000
at pitt and 50,000 at Ibrox
1950-51 50,000 at Ibrox and 42,000 twice at pitt,one a league cup game.
1951-52 60,000 in the league cup at Ibrox
1952-53 35,000 twice at pitt one in league cup,and 2 games in the Scottish cup final hampden 129,762 and replay 113,700.
1953-54 scottish cup semi hampden 110,939
1954-55 scottish cup pitt 44,647
1955-56 scottish cup Ibrox 66,000 and league cup semi hampden 79,500.
56-57 league cup pitt 35,000
61-62 scottish cup pitt 41,359 and Ibrox replay 57,600
1962-63 40,000 pitt
1967-68 44,000 twice pitt one in league cup,50,000 league cup at Ibrox.
1968-69 scottish cup semi hampden 66,197
1970-71 36,000 pitt and 60,584 scottish cup Ibrox.
74-75 50,000 Ibrox
75-76 60,000 Ibrox scottish cup
All others were cup finals and at a reduced Hampden with a few 70,000
crowds but all in all this just highlights the amazing pulling power our club
has and this is just against one club starting with the letter A.

Pavarotti
31-07-2008, 05:17
The Rangers who else,Looked at all the big crowds over the years and despite
having many 90,000 + crowds at Ibrox and being the only club Ground to do so (ignoring the lies from the scum,who turned 83 to 92)I decided to find out about 100,000 + crowds that were mainly at cup finals and semies but a few like the four games at Ibrox two cup ties and two league games against Hibs and them,what stands out is how far ahead we are from the rest.



The list below gives the amount of times each club has played in front of a crowd of 100,000 or more in the UK -

41 Rangers
26 Celtic
12 Man United
10 Liverpool
9 Aberdeen, Spurs
7 Arsenal
6 Aston Villa, West Ham, Man City, Everton, Hibernian,
4 Notts Forest, Leeds, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Morton,
3 Sunderland, Bolton, Wolverhampton, Leicester, Chelsea, Norwich, St Mirren,
2 Blackpool, West Brom, Preston, Southampton, Brighton, Clyde, East Fife,
Dundee, Hearts, Dunfermline, Eintract Frankfurt,
1 Sheffield United, Newcastle, Birmingham, Luton, Blackburn, Burnley, Sheffield
Wed, Fulham, Ipswich, QPR, Watford, Stoke, Benfica, Munich 1860, Real Madrid

Note 14 of their games were against us.

Good to read about us being the "KINGS" of crowds,


but do you know which English league gruond held the biggest crowd, ?

williamstown1690
31-07-2008, 05:21
Good to read about us being the "KINGS" of crowds,


but do you know which English league gruond held the biggest crowd, ?

Maine road I think.

Pavarotti
31-07-2008, 06:10
Maine road I think.

Aye spot on bud, ;) i think it was either 82 or 86,000,

good to see you know your stuff. :)

The_Gub
31-07-2008, 06:25
A clue, it was in 1987 but against who?.

Dynamo Kiev

The_Gub
31-07-2008, 06:27
I was sure from memory there were 100,000 at the Centenary game against Arsenal(They charged admission prices from 1873), but have since read on FF it was much less.

The crowd was 71,000, which was bigger than the Old Firm game two days earlier.

The Treble Kings
31-07-2008, 10:01
It has to be said that these crowd figures have to viewed bearing in mind that Ibrox, Parkhead and Hampden were quite easy to get in for free. Be it climbing over the turnstyle, passing the turnstyle operator a few quid to let your mates in, or simply climbing over the wall to gain entry.

I witnessed all three of the above. You have to assume there were thousands more at these games than the official figures issued.

farley1968
31-07-2008, 10:41
It has to be said that these crowd figures have to viewed bearing in mind that Ibrox, Parkhead and Hampden were quite easy to get in for free. Be it climbing over the turnstyle, passing the turnstyle operator a few quid to let your mates in, or simply climbing over the wall to gain entry.

I witnessed all three of the above. You have to assume there were thousands more at these games than the official figures issued.

Certainly this was still going on at Hampden and the Piggery until the seats came in - I witnessed it many times at both grounds in the 80's/90's.
Another wee moral victory which all seaters did away with! :D

williamstown1690
02-08-2008, 04:11
Dynamo Kiev

Correct again Gub,but MDC answered this last year.:D

grangers
02-08-2008, 04:40
It has to be said that these crowd figures have to viewed bearing in mind that Ibrox, Parkhead and Hampden were quite easy to get in for free. Be it climbing over the turnstyle, passing the turnstyle operator a few quid to let your mates in, or simply climbing over the wall to gain entry.

I witnessed all three of the above. You have to assume there were thousands more at these games than the official figures issued.


without a doubt mate, I got in Illegally at the Royal cup final (73), and there was way more than the official attendance! ;)

My first OF game was the 4-0 gubbing in the SCF in 1969 :eek:
My record has been better since ;)

williamstown1690
02-08-2008, 04:57
In 1896-97 we broke the 20,000 mark at Ibrox and it was against Hibs twice
in 1913-14 30,000 turned up at Easter road a massive crowd for anywhere
outside of Glasgow at the time,Hibs were the opposition in many of our biggest crowds in future.

1945-46 the victory cup final at hampden 100'000
1946-47 50,000 Ibrox and 41,378 at ER
Scottish cup Ibrox 95,000 and replay at ER 48,816 and the league cup
semi final the same year 125,154.
1947-48 55,000 Ibrox and 52,750 at ER,while the biggest ever crowd outside
of a final 143,570 watched the Scottish cup semi between the sides at hampden.
1948-49 50,000 at both Ibrox and ER in the league and two league
cup games there were 47,000 at ER and 76,466 at Ibrox.
1949-50 51,500 at ER and 101,000 at Ibrox
1950-51 80,000 at Ibrox 40,000 at ER,Scottish cup at Ibrox 102,342
1951-52 55,000 at ER,
1952-53 65,000 at Ibrox and 60,500 at ER
1954-55 43,000 ER and 54,000 Ibrox
1955-56 50,000 Ibrox and 30,000 ER
1956-57 40,000 ER
1957-58 semi and replay at hampden 76,727 and 75,000
1958-59 32,000 at ER.
1959-60 32,000 at ER and 60,000 Ibrox also 60,000 in scott cup 44,700 er
in the league cup.
1960-61 35,000 ER
1961-62 35,000 ER
1962-63 36,500 ER league cup
1964-65 44,300 ER and Scottish cup 47,363
1965-66 38,000 ER
1966-67 32,913 ER league cup
1971-72 scottish cup semi hampden 75,884
1972-73 33,356 ER 51,200 Ibrox,Scottish cup and replay 63,687 at Ibrox
and 49,007 at ER.
1974-75 38,585 im sure there was more at ER,and 60,000 at Ibrox

im sure my fascination is shared by many,and it shows how Ibrox was
reduced to a size too small of that theres no doubt,Hibs and Hearts grounds
were built to hold bigger crowds than the new Ibrox all seater. Easter road
http://i50.tinypic.com/24myhr4.jpg

williamstown1690
02-08-2008, 05:17
Aye spot on bud, ;) i think it was either 82 or 86,000,

good to see you know your stuff. :)

84,569 against Stoke in the fa cup 1934
the next biggest was also at Maine rd but Man U played Arsenal somehow
83,260 in 1948 and Chelsea 82,905 are next best against Arsenal in 1935.

Googled that by the way.;)

williamstown1690
02-08-2008, 05:29
I will do ra sellick when I get to s in the alphabet.:D shite scum ect.

williamstown1690
03-08-2008, 06:39
A crowd of 17,500 turned at Tynecastle in 1898-99
three scottish cup finals two replays at hampden 30,000 and 35,000 twice
in 1902,in 1912 50,000 at Ibrox with 18,000 at tynecastle the days of the
big crowds between the two were established.

1914-15 first year of the war 23,500 were in Edinburgh and 41,000 at Ibrox
only bettered by the old firm games that season.
1919-20 26,000 at tc
1920-21 34,000 at tc
1921-22 40,000 at tc
1928-29 45,000 at tc
1929-30 41,000 at tc,the crowds between the two were more important seemingly when Rangers went to Edinburgh at the time because Hearts wer,nt
a big pull in Glasgow.
1930-31 37,000 tc
1931-32 31,032 tc and 53,496 again at tynecastle in cup tie.
1933-34 Hearts became interesting at home 69,543 at Ibrox cup tie,replay
at tynecastle 48,893.
1934-35 36,345 tc and semi + replay at hampden 102,661,90,248
1936-37 40,211 tc
1937-38 55,000 Ibrox
1938-39 38,592 tc
1940-41 southrn league cup final hampden and replay,70,000 and 75,000
1945-46 36,177 tc and 75,000 league cup semi.
1946-47 46,532 tc
1947-48 35,750 tc
1948-49 40,824.
1949-50 50,000 Ibrox and 46,285 tc
1950-51 54,000 Ibrox and 38,371
1951-52 47,572 tc
1952-53 semi final at hampden 116,262,and two league cup ties 41,533tc
and 75,000 at Ibrox.
1953-54 49,000 tc and two league cup ties 60,000 Ibrox and 35,000 tc
1954-55 40,000 tc
1955-56 51,000 Ibrox and 46,885 tc,and scottish cup at tc 47,258
1956-57 49,000tc and cup tie 47,874 cup tie.
1957-58 62,000 Ibrox and 35,700 tc
1958-59 66,000 Ibrox and 36,000 tc,scottish cup 55,000 Ibrox and league
cup sections 66,000 Ibrox and 42,000 tc.
1959-60 72,000 Ibrox and 45,000 tc.
1960-61 39,500 tc
1961-62 league cup final hampden 88,635.
1962-63 33,487 tc
1964-65 31,438tc
1964-65 31,348tc and 52,492 Ibrox
1965-66 32,225 and 32,859 in league cup both tc.
1967-68 35,285 tc and two cup ties 57,521 Ibrox and 44,094 tc

It just shows with a few more 30,000 plus crowds and the scottish cup final
in the 70s with 85,354 Hearts although they never pulled our biggest crowds
especially at home were by their home attendances the third best supported club in the land. Rangers v Hearts Tynecastle

http://i50.tinypic.com/25j9zxh.jpg

The_Gub
03-08-2008, 08:17
Correct again Gub,but MDC answered this last year.:D

If you think I hang on to MDC's every word, in the here and now, far less last year then you are sadly mistaken. :cool:

Bullseye
03-08-2008, 08:58
Anybody know the last time we played in front of a 100,000 crowd?I will hazard a guess

May 5, 1973 Rangers 3 2 Celtic Hampden Park, Glasgow
Attendance: 122,714
Referee: John Gordon
Alfie Conn
Tom Forsyth
Derek Parlane George Connelly (pen.)
Kenny Dalglish.


A good wee site..http://www.rangershistory.co.uk/seasons/1891-92.html

The Treble Kings
03-08-2008, 09:37
Anybody know the last time we played in front of a 100,000 crowd?

Dynamo Kiev in Ukraine, September 1987. Attendance:100,000.

Iron_Curtain
03-08-2008, 10:27
"It just shows with a few more 30,000 plus crowds and the scottish cup final
in the 70s with 85,354 Hearts although they never pulled our biggest crowds
especially at home were by their home attendances the third best supported club in the land."


For several seasons pre Jock Stein at the tattiebowl, Hearts were the second best supported team in the country.

hihibear
03-08-2008, 14:08
The Rangers who else,Looked at all the big crowds over the years and despite
having many 90,000 + crowds at Ibrox and being the only club Ground to do so (ignoring the lies from the scum,who turned 83 to 92)I decided to find out about 100,000 + crowds that were mainly at cup finals and semies but a few like the four games at Ibrox two cup ties and two league games against Hibs and them,what stands out is how far ahead we are from the rest.



The list below gives the amount of times each club has played in front of a crowd of 100,000 or more in the UK -

41 Rangers
26 Celtic
12 Man United
10 Liverpool
9 Aberdeen, Spurs
7 Arsenal
6 Aston Villa, West Ham, Man City, Everton, Hibernian,
4 Notts Forest, Leeds, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Morton,
3 Sunderland, Bolton, Wolverhampton, Leicester, Chelsea, Norwich, St Mirren,
2 Blackpool, West Brom, Preston, Southampton, Brighton, Clyde, East Fife,
Dundee, Hearts, Dunfermline, Eintract Frankfurt,
1 Sheffield United, Newcastle, Birmingham, Luton, Blackburn, Burnley, Sheffield
Wed, Fulham, Ipswich, QPR, Watford, Stoke, Benfica, Munich 1860, Real Madrid

Note 14 of their games were against us.

Dont see Falkirk in the list! Sure there were more than 100000 at Cup Final V Killie around late fifties - drawn first game and big crowd at replay. Was in the old North stand at Hampden for first and only time-scary stuff!

farley1968
03-08-2008, 20:25
"It just shows with a few more 30,000 plus crowds and the scottish cup final
in the 70s with 85,354 Hearts although they never pulled our biggest crowds
especially at home were by their home attendances the third best supported club in the land."


For several seasons pre Jock Stein at the tattiebowl, Hearts were the second best supported team in the country.

I posted this before but relevant to this post.

Try this for starters - Rangers average first

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Rangers first...

1960;31501 - 20588
1961;35596 - 19324
1962;35917 - 25332
1963;30685 - 24643
1964;39659 - 19800
1965;29089 - 18284
1966;24441 - 24102
1967;28573 - 31082
1968;34980 - 31373
1969;34740 - 33747
1970;33634 - 33188
1971;29471 - 29647
1972;26199 - 31241
1973;27469 - 26606
1974;22356 - 24762
1975;32855 22775
1976;30648 - 28066
1977;21692 - 28063
1978;28083 - 29568
1979;25628 - 25303
1980;20405 - 28499
1981;18328 - 22836
1982;16400 - 22718
1983;17681 - 23740
1984;21996 - 18390
1985;20963 - 20827
1986;25146 25355
1987;36152 - 25311
1988;38568 - 33199
1989;39189 - 21713
1990;38436 - 28616
1991;35969 - 29012
1992;37701 - 25086
1993;40737 - 22684
1994;43345 - 22637
1995;44062 - 24601
1996;44661 - 34342
1997;48118 - 47504
1998;49357 - 48532
1999;49011 - 59271
2000;48107 - 53887
2001;47532 - 59370
2002;47895 - 58587
2003;48814 - 57614
2004;48992 - 58516


The 1973 Scottish Cup Final attracted a crowd of 122,714 to Hampden Park. It was the Centenary Cup Final and a classic at that. The Rangers recorded a 3-2 victory over Celtic. It was The Rangers first Scottish Cup success for seven years.


It was also the 96th and last time a crowd of over 100,000 people attended a football match played in Scotland - indeed since then, in the whole of the UK there has not been a crowd anywhere near that figure.

Of those 96 occasions, 92 had been at Hampden Park with the remaining four at Ibrox, including the British record for a League match when 118,730 watched The Rangers beat Celtic 2-1 on 2nd January 1939.
The Rangers had featured more than any other club in the "big" attendances with a total of 39 appearances. Scotland had been present for 37 and England and Celtic shared third place with 29 appearances each.

Four years later, a much smaller crowd watched the 1977 Scottish Cup Final where Celtic defeated Rangers 1-0. Only 54,252 turned up to see this showpiece of the season.

Where had the 68,462 missing fans gone who had been present only four years earlier?

The Rangers' crowds during the 1960's had remained reasonably steady with an average of somewhere between 29,000 and 35,000. On only one season did the average fall badly - 1965-66 where they averaged 24,441. On only 2 occasions during the decade did The Rangers average fall below Celtic's - 1966-67 and 1968-69 - and on most occasions especially during the early years of the 60's Ibrox crowds were at least 50% up on those at Celtic Park. Then as now, most club's attendances were directly linked to success on the field and what the punters viewed as value for money.

As the 1970 dawned, crowds began to fall at all grounds across the land. Rangers through this decade averaged between 20,000 and 30,000. The 1975-76 season gave them their decades highest with 30,648. This was the first season of the new Premier League structure and the figures may be slightly misleading as it included in the average two gates against Celtic and the other bigger clubs. However that season saw the first Old Firm match at Ibrox produce a crowd of 70,964 - the last time a crowd of that size attended a league match at Ibrox or indeed anywhere in Scotland. Incidentally it is recorded that on that day The Rangers had 3,062 season ticket holders. 30 years previous they had around the 2,000 mark but 30 years later the number of punters who had season books was 40,000.

In the two years of the Cup Finals mentioned, average crowds were still in the 20,000's. In 1972-73 Rangers averaged 27,469 with Celtic slightly behind on 26,606. By 1976-77 Celtic had risen slightly to 28,063 whilst Rangers had fallen to 21,692.

A combined average of the two clubs shows a fall from 54,000 to 49,000 - not a massive drop - so where did the missing 68,462 at Hampden go?

What were the reasons for this?

Many people point to violence at football matches throughout the 1970's. Disturbances and pitch invasions were common all over the UK and in matches involving either half of the Old Firm.

The Ibrox Disaster and general safety at football grounds may have played a part but throughout the decade The Rangers had a higher average on three seasons than they did for the 1970-71 season.

Unemployment was on the rise and industrial action at times was bringing the country to a standstill.

People had more leisure time in the 1970's and a wider choice of activities to spend it on - for some, gone were the days of " Every other Saturday's my half day off and it's off to the match I go"

Families were moving further and further apart and no longer lived in the same street. Three generations of families probably still went to the game together but not in the numbers of previous years.

Television undoubtedly played a role in the 1977 crowd. It was the first Scottish Cup Final to be shown live since 1955.

Crowds continued to fall and The Rangers recorded their lowest average for 60 years in the 1981-82 season where an average of only 16,400 turned up at Ibrox to see the team. It wasn't until 4 years later that a dramatic increase in crowds was seen. That was due massively to David Holmes and his appointment of Graeme Souness, who was to turn around the club's fortunes.

Since the 1996-67 season Rangers have played to average crowds of 47,000 or higher each season. They now play in front of higher average crowds than at any time in their history. The previous highest was the 1949-50 season when the figure stood at 44,993 who would turn up loyally to watch the likes of Young, Shaw,Cox,Waddell and Woodburn.

One final note, in the 100 or so years from 1905 to 2005, The Rangers have been watched by the highest crowds in Scotland on 67 occasions as opposed to 22 for Celtic ( 7 of which have been since the new Celtic Park was opened). Indeed in the 60 odd years from 1905 -1966, Rangers were only beaten for highest average on 7 occasions.

As both Old Firm clubs have at least 80% season ticket holders, the grounds of today are normally almost full for each fixture. Nowadays attandances are more stable and as grounds are much smaller we are unlikely ever to see such as massive difference between two finals as we did in 1977.

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Rangers first

49-50 - 44,933 / 29,867
50-51 - 35,933 / 28,786
51-52 - 34,867 / 29,568 Hibs were 30,700
52-53 - 40,667 / 23,933 Hibs were 29,800
53-54 - 30,467 / 28,067
54-55 - 34,120 / 30,654
55-56 - 36,294 / 21,467 Hearts were 23,588
56-57 - 35,888 / 17,706 Hearts were 23,882, Hibs were 18,176
57-58 - 30,765 / 18,348 Hearts were 24,118, Hibs were 20,206
58-59 - 35,353 / 18,411 Hearts were 21,471
59-60 - 31,501 / 20,588 Hearts were 23,059

During only 4 of the above 11 seasons were Celtic the second best supported club and for 2 of those seasons they were the 4th best supported.

Between 1920 and 1950 (not including the war years), 23 seasons in total, Rangers had the highest average 19 times with Hearts the other 4 top occasions.

On several occasions Celtic were lower than 4th best and in 1924-25 they were SEVENTH! - even Dundee and Thistle had higher.

In 1919-20 Celtic were the second best supported behind Rangers - The next time they achieved that was nearly 30 years later in 1948-49.

They had the highest average in 1966-67 - the first time they achieved that since 1917-18 and only their 4th time in total.

In the 100 or so years since 1905 when attendances were given Rangers have been the highest on 75 occasions.

Rangers had higher attendances then them for 4 seasons during their Nine in a row run - even in season 1967-68 when they had just won the Euro Cup we averaged higher.

Several times our attendances have been nearly double Celtic's - notably the late 1920's and 30's period and in 1992 -95 period. The furthest ahead they have ever been is now when they can average about 10,000 more due to the size of the Piggery.

And don't let your mate say we averaged more cause Ibrox was bigger, for your average game Ibrox was only about 40-60% full - less at Parkhead.

They can't even get it right when it comes to their record crowd - another piece of fiction!

More info here.

http://forum.*****************/showth...op+attendances


Sorry for being long winded - but we deal in fact not fiction! :D

williamstown1690
31-08-2008, 05:45
The biggest crowd ever to see the two sides was at Hampden in the Scottish cup final in 1968-69 where 132,870 were in attendance,there were many
games where 65,000 + were the norm and we'll concentrate on 85+ and the
biggest first you already know.

1962-63 Scottish cup final and replay,129,463 and 120,273
1972-73 Scottish cup final 122,714
1970-71 scottish cup final and replay 120,092 and 103,332 + league cup
final 106,263.
1938-39 Scottish league Ibrox 118,730
1927-28 Scottish cup final 118,115 and Glasgow cup final 84,136
1948-49 Scottish league Ibrox 95,000 and league cup Ibrox 105,000
1936-37 Scottish league Ibrox 95,000
1948-49 scottish league Ibrox 95,000
1952-53 scottish cup Ibrox 95,000
1967-68 Scottish league 90,000 Ibrox and league cup at Ibrox 94,168
1943-44 Scottish league cup semi final 90,000
1945-46 victory cup semi final 90,000
1946-47 scottish league Ibrox 85,000
1951-52 scottish league Ibrox 86,000
1956-57 Scottish league Ibrox 88,000
1968-69 scottish league Ibrox 85,000
1970-71 there was a scottish league game Ibrox 85,000.
1971-72 Scottish league cup Ibrox 85,000

no mention of the piggery anywhere,sweet.:)

72 Blue
31-08-2008, 05:48
The biggest crowd ever to see the two sides was at Hampden in the Scottish cup final in 1968-69 where 132,870 were in attendance,there were many
games where 65,000 + were the norm and we'll concentrate on 85+ and the
biggest first you already know.

1962-63 Scottish cup final and replay,129,463 and 120,273
1972-73 Scottish cup final 122,714
1970-71 scottish cup final and replay 120,092 and 103,332 + league cup
final 106,263.
1938-39 Scottish league Ibrox 118,730
1927-28 Scottish cup final 118,115 and Glasgow cup final 84,136
1948-49 Scottish league Ibrox 95,000 and league cup Ibrox 105,000
1936-37 Scottish league Ibrox 95,000
1948-49 scottish league Ibrox 95,000
1952-53 scottish cup Ibrox 95,000
1967-68 Scottish league 90,000 Ibrox and league cup at Ibrox 94,168
1943-44 Scottish league cup semi final 90,000
1945-46 victory cup semi final 90,000
1946-47 scottish league Ibrox 85,000
1951-52 scottish league Ibrox 86,000
1956-57 Scottish league Ibrox 88,000
1968-69 scottish league Ibrox 85,000
1970-71 there was a scottish league game Ibrox 85,000.
1971-72 Scottish league cup Ibrox 85,000

no mention of the piggery anywhere,sweet.:)

Couldnae sell their tickets. :clap:

williamstown1690
31-08-2008, 05:52
Couldnae sell their tickets. :clap:

It was just never a 90,000 stadium ever,they claim that as their record 92,000,trying to live with us is always their aim,83,500 is the official but anybody knows whos been there 75,000 was a sardine can plain and simple.

williamstown
03-01-2010, 06:33
Bump this old thread up as it shows we are the people.:)

72 Blue
03-01-2010, 06:49
Bump this old thread up as it shows we are the people.:)

Great thread.............an oldie but a goody. (PS... are you a relation of the OP?)

williamstown
03-01-2010, 06:55
Great thread.............an oldie but a goody.

Factual mate,Ibrox is the only ground outside of Hampden and Wembley that could hold a real big crowd,Man U and the tarriers are not in the same league.

Daddy_Bear07
03-01-2010, 10:50
Always sceptical of these 100,000 crowds at the FA Cup Finals. Given that these are official crowds are they seriously suggesting that every single ticket bought for these finals turned up? Not one person missed through an accident, mishap in house or losing their ticket, every single final??? I think in reality quite a lot where down in the 99,000 plus category.

The Treble Kings
03-01-2010, 13:15
Always sceptical of these 100,000 crowds at the FA Cup Finals. Given that these are official crowds are they seriously suggesting that every single ticket bought for these finals turned up? Not one person missed through an accident, mishap in house or losing their ticket, every single final??? I think in reality quite a lot where down in the 99,000 plus category.

The official crowds were issued as 100,000 but on many occasions a few thousand more gained entry in similar fashion to what went on at Ibrox, Celtic Park and Hampden. I remember reading that over 8,000 extra fans gained entry to the Everton v Man United 1985 FA Cup Final by slipping turnstile operators cash.

britain
04-01-2010, 09:21
Excellent thread.

britain
04-01-2010, 09:24
The 1976 Scottish Cup Final Rangers v Hearts had an official attendance of 85,000. hampdens new capacity.

However, anybody who was there will tell you that there were well over 100,000 inside Hampden that day.

A gate was broken and ticketless fans gained entry. So the real attendance that day is simply guesswork

britain
06-01-2010, 13:41
Simon Inglis disputes the Celtc record crowd of 92,000 and states it as 83,000 in his book 'The Football Stadiums of Great Britain'.

Rangers had far higher crowds than 83,000 at Ibrox Stadium on numerous occasions !

Daddy_Bear07
06-01-2010, 13:51
Some of the crowds given do bamboozle me a little.

Unless the grounds changed dramatically from the olden days up to the 80's i do wonder about the records at Shawfield, Fir Park and Firhill.

Even the tattiedome having been in it with a 65,000 odd crowd it is difficult to see how they managed to get another 25,000 odd in, and i believe the "new" main stand there holds more than their old one when the record was set.

isawthat
06-01-2010, 13:54
In four games in the Scottish cup in 1947-48, 499,295 people turned up to watch us beat East Fife 90,000 at Ibrox,Hibs at Hampden in the semi final where 143,570 turned up and the two finals with Morton 131,975 and 133,750,bloody amazing.

isawthat was at all of these games:cool:

shawlandsbear
06-01-2010, 14:01
while we're talking attendances,i was reading stuff about the world cup last night and brazil played uruguay at the 1950 world cup in front of 199,854 crowd! ps wouldn't fancy waiting for a pie at that game!

britain
08-01-2010, 06:57
If we take Celtc record crowd as 83,500.

Rangers have played, at Ibrox in competitive matches to bigger crowds than this on no fewer than 23 occasions and played to the same 83,500 attendance, on 1 occasion.

georgiegirl
14-01-2010, 21:42
Jumped the turnstyle loads of times either through having no money or no ticket.

instructor
14-01-2010, 21:50
Had a look at crowds a while ago in the 'Rangers Complete Record' book. I was surprised that we did not really get regular large attendances, say 40,000 plus, until Souness arrived. We did get huge crowds for particualar games, against Celtic and whoever was a force at the time in the league, but the average attendances were not that great, more around the 25,000 - 30,000 mark.

britain
14-01-2010, 22:28
1930: Scottish Cup 1st Round Hampden, over 90,000 watched Queens Park v Rangers !

bilkobear
15-01-2010, 02:07
The 1976 Scottish Cup Final Rangers v Hearts had an official attendance of 85,000. hampdens new capacity.

However, anybody who was there will tell you that there were well over 100,000 inside Hampden that day.

A gate was broken and ticketless fans gained entry. So the real attendance that day is simply guesswork

Correct.
I was part of a group of supporters who were waved in after covering an officials hand with money.
Such things were commonplace in this era at many grounds.

bilkobear
15-01-2010, 02:14
Had a look at crowds a while ago in the 'Rangers Complete Record' book. I was surprised that we did not really get regular large attendances, say 40,000 plus, until Souness arrived. We did get huge crowds for particualar games, against Celtic and whoever was a force at the time in the league, but the average attendances were not that great, more around the 25,000 - 30,000 mark.

Yes but unlike many clubs in England, Rangers and also to a lesser extent Celtc, took huge supports to away games, where crowds of 50,000 would see Rangers at Easter Road and Tynecastle.
Love Street would often see crowds of over 30,000 as would Pittodrie and Firhill for the visit of Rangers.
Rangers supporters would spend their money going to see these games and in many cases skip the next game at Ibrox if it was say Stirling Albion.
Going to the game was very much a spur of the moment thing for many.

I used to be amazed at some crowds for run of the mill fixtures where the attendance was given as 25,000 and it was obvious that there were far more than 30,000 inside Ibrox.

Rangers have always had a massive travelling support.

britain
15-01-2010, 13:51
The 1930 Queens Park record crowd was 95, 722.

Unusual in that the exact figure was given for teh crowd. Rangers played infront of a few other 'exact figure crowds' in the Scottish Cup that season.

Semi Final v Hearts Hampden saw 92,084.

The Scottish Cup Final v Partick Thistle saw 107,457 attend and then 103,688 for the replay.

orangeprod1873
15-01-2010, 13:54
Excellent mate. I like it. Wish i had the patience (and the time) to get involved in stuff like this. Must take up a fair whack of your spare time.

the rest of the spare time is made up of whackin :angel:

williamstown
17-01-2010, 02:28
If we take Celtc record crowd as 83,500.

Rangers have played, at Ibrox in competitive matches to bigger crowds than this on no fewer than 23 occasions and played to the same 83,500 attendance, on 1 occasion.

Correct mate,they have only had two 80,000 crowds and their record crowd at the piggery 83,500,the two 80,000 crowds were 1before the first world war and one just after, all three games were against us,this is the list of 80,000 + crowds at Ibrox

1919-20- 85,000 v celtc scottish cup quarter final
1926-27- 80,000 v Falkirk scottish cup quarter final
1930-31- 83,500 v celtc league
1931-32- 80,000 v celtc league
+ 88,000- v Motherwell scottish cup quarter final
1934-35- 83,000 v celtc league
1936-37- 95,000 v celtc league
1937-38- 80,000 v celtc league
1938-39- 118,730 v celtc league
1945-46- 95,000 v Dynamo moscow friendly
1946-47-85,000 v celtc league
+ 95,000 v Hibs scottish cup
1947-48- 90,000 v East fife scottish cup quarter finals
80,000 v celtc league cup
1948-49 -95,000 v celtc league + 105,000 V celtc league cup
1949-50-101,000 v Hibs league + 95,000 v celtc league cup
1950-51- 80,000 v Hibs league + 102,342 v Hibs scottish cup
1951-52-86,000 v celtc league + 82,000 v Motherwell scottish cup quarter final.
1952-53-80,000 v celtc league + 95,000 v celtc scottish cup QF.
1953-54-80,000 V Arsenal friendly
1956-57-88,000 v celtc scottish cup + 84,000 v celtc league cup
1960-61-90,000 v Motherwell scottish cup
1962-63-81,190 v dundee scottish cup
1963-64-84,724 v celtc scottish cup
1967-68- 90,000 v celtc league + 94,168 v celtc league cup
1968-69-85,000 v celtc league
1969-70-84,000 v celtc league
1970-71-85,000 v celtc league
1971-72-80,000 v celtc league + 85,000 v celtc league cup

European games

85,000 v St Ettiene
85,000 v AC Millan
80,000 v Anderlecht
80,000 v red star
82,587 Rotterdam
80,000 Fiorentina
80,000 Spurs
81,215 Real Madrid
85,000 Leeds
82,743 Bayern Munich
80,000 Bayern Munich

Calvers72
17-01-2010, 03:44
Very informative thread. Mind boggling crowds in bygone days when i think that the biggest crowds i've in been were against them in the 89 SCF and the Scotland V Spain WCQ in 86 roughly 76,000 give or take a few thou. But it's nice to see what we already knew, WATP!

williamstown
17-01-2010, 03:52
Very informative thread. Mind boggling crowds in bygone days when i think that the biggest crowds i've in been were against them in the 89 SCF and the Scotland V Spain WCQ in 86 roughly 76,000 give or take a few thou. But it's nice to see what we already knew, WATP!

My first cup final was in 1973 which was the last of the great crowds,when you think that places like Easter road and Tynecastle could hold more than the present day Ibrox says it all about the size of grounds back then in the old days.


http://i26.tinypic.com/2cy5qb.jpg

williamstown
17-01-2010, 06:51
isawthat was at all of these games:cool:

Respect mate,you deserve the name indeed,isawthat.;)

britain
18-01-2010, 07:03
Correct mate,they have only had two 80,000 crowds and their record crowd at the piggery 83,500,the two 80,000 crowds were 1before the first world war and one just after, all three games were against us,this is the list of 80,000 + crowds at Ibrox

1919-20- 85,000 v celtc scottish cup quarter final
1926-27- 80,000 v Falkirk scottish cup quarter final
1930-31- 83,500 v celtc league
1931-32- 80,000 v celtc league
+ 88,000- v Motherwell scottish cup quarter final
1934-35- 83,000 v celtc league
1936-37- 95,000 v celtc league
1937-38- 80,000 v celtc league
1938-39- 118,730 v celtc league
1945-46- 95,000 v Dynamo moscow friendly
1946-47-85,000 v celtc league
+ 95,000 v Hibs scottish cup
1947-48- 90,000 v East fife scottish cup quarter finals
80,000 v celtc league cup
1948-49 -95,000 v celtc league + 105,000 V celtc league cup
1949-50-101,000 v Hibs league + 95,000 v celtc league cup
1950-51- 80,000 v Hibs league + 102,342 v Hibs scottish cup
1951-52-86,000 v celtc league + 82,000 v Motherwell scottish cup quarter final.
1952-53-80,000 v celtc league + 95,000 v celtc scottish cup QF.
1953-54-80,000 V Arsenal friendly
1956-57-88,000 v celtc scottish cup + 84,000 v celtc league cup
1960-61-90,000 v Motherwell scottish cup
1962-63-81,190 v dundee scottish cup
1963-64-84,724 v celtc scottish cup
1967-68- 90,000 v celtc league + 94,168 v celtc league cup
1968-69-85,000 v celtc league
1969-70-84,000 v celtc league
1970-71-85,000 v celtc league
1971-72-80,000 v celtc league + 85,000 v celtc league cup

European games

85,000 v St Ettiene
85,000 v AC Millan
80,000 v Anderlecht
80,000 v red star
82,587 Rotterdam
80,000 Fiorentina
80,000 Spurs
81,215 Real Madrid
85,000 Leeds
82,743 Bayern Munich
80,000 Bayern Munich

Chher mate for posting, got a similar list of attendance stats that's alos 'interesting' re Big Crowds and Rangers.

britain
18-01-2010, 07:05
The 1931/32 88,000 crowd v Motherwel lin the Scottish Cup was a new record attendance of us then !

Motherwell had a really good side at that time.

blu_oz
18-01-2010, 07:55
Only four stadiums in the UK have held over 100,000,Hampden Wembley Ibrox and surprising to me the original Crystal palace ground.

Not exactly right ...the Odsal stadium in Bradford had over 100,000 for a rugby league match

"Odsal Stadium, Bradford during the 1954 Challenge Cup Final Replay between Warrington and Halifax. A record crowd of 102,575 ."

TAMLEBAM
18-01-2010, 08:48
My old Dad taught me how to avoid crushing in big crowds. The first point he made was to get a barrier right behind you, then if the crowd swayed forwards you were at the back of it. At Hampden he also used to take us round at the Rangers end to near the big enclosure (north stand these days? opposite the tunnel.) No matter how big the crowd there was always a wee bit of space in that area.
I think the last big crowd at Ibrox might have been a game against Dundee in a cup game in the 70's around 80k, I think we lost 3 - 0.
By the way according to the Liam on Sunday timothies game v Falkirk was money at the door!!!!!

OilmanJD
18-01-2010, 08:54
Interesting thread. Does anyone know how we compare to other major leagues across the Europe/World? That would be interesting to look at as well.

Daddy_Bear07
18-01-2010, 09:08
Interesting thread. Does anyone know how we compare to other major leagues across the Europe/World? That would be interesting to look at as well.

I'm sure there is only a handful of sides who have hosted 100,000+ crowds in their league matches.

bomba picante
18-01-2010, 10:52
The official crowds were issued as 100,000 but on many occasions a few thousand more gained entry in similar fashion to what went on at Ibrox, Celtic Park and Hampden. I remember reading that over 8,000 extra fans gained entry to the Everton v Man United 1985 FA Cup Final by slipping turnstile operators cash.

On the subject of the old Wembley, the last time it had a 100,000 capacity was for the 1988 FA Cup Final (crowd was given at 98,203). Seats were installed behind the goals during the summer, reducing its capacity to around 74,000.

The Treble Kings
18-01-2010, 14:03
Only four stadiums in the UK have held over 100,000,Hampden Wembley Ibrox and surprising to me the original Crystal palace ground.


Not exactly right ...the Odsal stadium in Bradford had over 100,000 for a rugby league match

"Odsal Stadium, Bradford during the 1954 Challenge Cup Final Replay between Warrington and Halifax. A record crowd of 102,575 ."

Murrayfield had a crowd of 104,000 for the Scotland v Wales Five Nations game in 1975. I think that's a British and European record for a Rugby game.

britain
19-01-2010, 07:01
When countries around the world were building their 'show piece stadiums' the 100,000 capacity was seen as 'a badge of honour'.

If you've seen footage of Scotland v Wales in 1975 at Murrayfield, the crowd that day was awesome in size.

Did young rugby fans ask for 'a lift over the turnstile mister' (in a posh voice mind you) in those days ?!

GingerFurball
19-01-2010, 07:13
I think I'm right in saying that the British record for a crowd at league, cup and European games were all set in Glasgow?

blu_oz
19-01-2010, 07:16
Murrayfield had a crowd of 104,000 for the Scotland v Wales Five Nations game in 1975. I think that's a British and European record for a Rugby game.

I'd forgotten about that :o.....I dont know what the world record is for a rugby crowd but I think the Aussies may own the record when they built their Olympic stadium .....but they've now decreased the capacity of that to 85,000

stonedandhappy
19-01-2010, 07:22
In four games in the Scottish cup in 1947-48, 499,295 people turned up to watch us beat East Fife 90,000 at Ibrox,Hibs at Hampden in the semi final where 143,570 turned up and the two finals with Morton 131,975 and 133,750,bloody amazing.

Can you imagine the panic in the ranks of strathclydes finest having to police football crowds of that magnitude. They'd be drafting polis in from all over the country. F*ck going for a pie too :D

farley1968
19-01-2010, 09:07
I think I'm right in saying that the British record for a crowd at league, cup and European games were all set in Glasgow?

Most of the British Record crowd games were in Glasgow at either Ibrox or Hampden.
On 18th Oct 1961 we played Eintract Frankfurt at Hampden for the inauguration match for the Hampden Floodlights. 104,679 were there that night which is a British Record for a friendly. We lost 2-3.

bobans27
19-01-2010, 11:26
Excellent thread, confirms what we all know about the Rangers support.

mad_baz
19-01-2010, 12:44
Found this on wiki - dont know if it is relevant but its claiming to beat hampdens record (albeit non officially) i know this doesent count but its pretty impressive!

The Empire Stadium was built in exactly 300 days at the cost of 750,000. Described as the world's greatest sporting arena (at the time), it was ready only 4 days before the White Horse Final. The FA had not considered admission by ticket, grossly under-estimating the anticipation of the number of fans turning up to the 104 gates on match day. However, after the game, every event, apart from the 1982 replay,[14] since has been ticketed.


Billy the White Horse, saviour of the 1923 FA Cup Final.The first event held at the stadium was the FA Cup final on 28 April 1923 between Bolton Wanderers and West Ham United. This is known as the White Horse Final. Such was the eagerness of fans and casual observers to attend the final at the new national stadium that vast numbers of people crammed through the 104 turnstiles into the stadium, far exceeding its official 127,000 capacity. The crowds overflowed onto the pitch as there was no room on the terraces. Estimates of the number of fans in attendance range from 240,000[15] to well over 300,000.[16] It is estimated that another 60,000 were locked outside the gates. The FA were forced to refund 10% of the total gate money to fans unable to reach the terraces. The White Horse Final has the highest ever unofficial "non-racing" sports attendance in the world, which is very unlikely to be broken in the near future. (This claim, however, is disputed, as the Maracana held (officially) 199,854 fans during the 1950 World Cup final match between Brazil and Uruguay.) It was thought that the match would not be played because of the volume of spectators inside the stadium that had spilled onto the pitch. That was until mounted police, including Police Constable George Scorey and his white horse, Billy, slowly pushed the masses back to the sides of the field of play for the FA Cup Final to start, just 45 minutes late. In honour of Billy, the footbridge outside the new Wembley Stadium has been named the White Horse Bridge. The official attendance is often quoted as 126,047. The stadium also sported the largest football pitch in the world until it was made smaller to conform to FIFA regulations.

mad_baz
19-01-2010, 12:53
love this post and would have loved to have stood at Ibrox watchin us destroy the filth in front of 118,000 that must have been out of this world...

I was looking at hampdens page (see above post's info) and noticed the filth had the record for club games there, i.e - Scottish cup, and European competition. I struggle to believe how that could happen, as all the above posts clearly show we consistantly got more fans showing loyalty throuhout our history and regularly got 100,000 crowds to big games. Maybe its cos there all glory hunters who just turnes up to see those games way the sheep and Leeds...

Anyway teh league is the bread and butter and the record for an attendance in the UK is - Ibrox...........

farley1968
19-01-2010, 13:36
love this post and would have loved to have stood at Ibrox watchin us destroy the filth in front of 118,000 that must have been out of this world...

I was looking at hampdens page (see above post's info) and noticed the filth had the record for club games there, i.e - Scottish cup, and European competition. I struggle to believe how that could happen, as all the above posts clearly show we consistantly got more fans showing loyalty throuhout our history and regularly got 100,000 crowds to big games. Maybe its cos there all glory hunters who just turnes up to see those games way the sheep and Leeds...

Anyway teh league is the bread and butter and the record for an attendance in the UK is - Ibrox...........

I think their Euro game vs Leeds at Hampden was hyped up beyond belief (sounds familiar?) and read somewhere that there was a large number of Bears went along to support Leeds.

Our crowd of 143,570 for the 1948 SCSF vs Hibs is the record for a game which wasn't a Final.

williamstown
21-01-2010, 01:19
Murrayfield had a crowd of 104,000 for the Scotland v Wales Five Nations game in 1975. I think that's a British and European record for a Rugby game.

Wasnt really talking about the funny shaped baw but Murrayfield was a big ground,there was also an unofficial 100,000 at Stamford bridge when Chelsea played Dynamo moscow when the crowd were on to the dog track and on the roof of the stands. pic of that game at Chelsea.

http://i46.tinypic.com/j9vymb.jpg

GingerFurball
21-01-2010, 05:21
love this post and would have loved to have stood at Ibrox watchin us destroy the filth in front of 118,000 that must have been out of this world...

I was looking at hampdens page (see above post's info) and noticed the filth had the record for club games there, i.e - Scottish cup, and European competition. I struggle to believe how that could happen, as all the above posts clearly show we consistantly got more fans showing loyalty throuhout our history and regularly got 100,000 crowds to big games. Maybe its cos there all glory hunters who just turnes up to see those games way the sheep and Leeds...

Anyway teh league is the bread and butter and the record for an attendance in the UK is - Ibrox...........

They played there for a season.

We also played in 9 cup finals or semi finals at Parkhead and 1 cup semi final at Ibrox in the 1990s when Hampden was being rebuilt, iirc in that same time frame Celtic made it to 4 semi finals and a final, losing a League Cup final to Raith Rovers, 2 semi finals to us, and the Scottish Cup semi final against Falkirk which got Tommy Burns sacked.

williamstown
21-01-2010, 06:02
They moved the Leeds game to hampden simply to get a big crowd,we had as many at a final against Aberdeen and more against Hibs
in a semi final,as I said 14 of their 26 big crowds were against us.

Bille
21-01-2010, 06:50
Apart from the occational old firm games I did,nt actually pay to get into football until I was 15. Getting a lift in was easy even if some of the old guys giving me a lift were smaller than I was.

britain
21-01-2010, 07:10
It was only after the reconstruction of Ibrox 78-81 that the tradition of 'getting a lift over' finally stopped.

williamstown
17-02-2010, 03:41
This is the full list of 100,000 crowds in Scotland,all scottish cup finals and Hampden unless stated,biggest crowd downwards.

36-37 Celtic v Aberdeen 147,365
47-48 Rangers v Hibernian 143,570 semi final
69-70 Celtic v Leeds utd 136,505 European cup
52-53 Motherwell v Dundee 136,304
45-46 Rangers v Aberdeen 135,000 Southern league cf
47-48 Rangers v Morton 133,750
68-69 Rangers v Celtic 132,870
55-56 Celtic v Hearts 132,840
50-51 Celtic v Motherwell 131,943
53-54 Celtic v Aberdeen 130,060
52-53 Rangers v Aberdeen 129,762
62-63 Rangers v Celtic 129,643
47-48 Rangers v Morton 129,176 Replay
61-62 Rangers v St Mirren 127,940
65-66 Rangers v Celtic 126,599
66-67 Celtic v Aberdeen 126,102
46-47 Rangers v Hibernian 125,154 semi final league cup
72-73 Rangers v Celtic 122,714
63-64 Rangers v Dundee 120,982
70-71 Rangers v Celtic 120,273 replay
48-49 Rangers v Clyde 120,162
70-71 Rangers v Celtic 120,092
49-50 Rangers v East Fife 120,015
38-39 Rangers v Celtic 118,730 league game Ibrox
27-28 Rangers v Celtic 118,115
52-53 Rangers v Hearts 116,262
28-29 Rangers v Kilmarnock 114,780
52-53 Rangers v Aberdeen 113,700
64-65 Celtic v Dunfermline 113,618
33-34 Rangers v St Mirren 113,403
31-32 RangersVKilmarnock 111,982
53-54 Rangers v Aberdeen 110,939 semi final
64-65 Celtic v Dunfermline 108,800
58-59 St Mirren v Aberdeen 108,591
59-60 Rangers v Kilmarnock 108,017
69-70 Celtic v Aberdeen 108,434
65-66 Rangers v Celtic 107,609 league cup final
29-30 Rangers v Partick Th 107,475
70-71 Rangers v Celtic 106,263 league cup final
54-55 Celtic v Clyde 106,234
71-72 Celtic v Hibernian 106,102
63-64 Rangers v Morton 105,907 league cup final
31-32 RangersVKilmarnock 105,695 replay
48-49 Rangers v Celtic 105,000 league cup tie Ibrox
48-49 Rangers v East Fife 104,958 semi final
30-31 Celtic v Motherwell 104,863
61-62 Rangers v Eintracht 104,679 friendly
29-30 Rangers v Partick Th 103,688 replay
70-71 Rangers v Celtic 103,332
34-35 Rangers v Hearts 102,661 semi final
50-51 Rangers v Hibernian 102,343 scottish cup tie Ibrox
32-33 Celtic v Motherwell 102,339
24-25 Rangers v Celtic 101,714
49-50 Rangers v Hibernian 101,000 league game Ibrox
45-46 Rangers v Hibernian 100,000 victory cup final

Rangers also outwith Scotland played to 100,000 crowds in Kiev in 87-88 and in Barcelona in the tournament against Bilbao and the hosts in the early 70s.

britain
17-02-2010, 06:48
Look at the Motherwell v Dundee crowd in 1952/53 136,304 !!!!!

Well researched.

williamstown
17-02-2010, 06:59
Look at the Motherwell v Dundee crowd in 1952/53 136,304 !!!!!

Well researched.

Wonder where they all came from mate,Dundee and Motherwell would have been empty.:D

britain
17-02-2010, 07:14
Wonder where they all came from mate,Dundee and Motherwell would have been empty.:D

That's true and the railways would have been mobbed !!!

williamstown
17-02-2010, 07:31
When you look at the English crowds they are all dead on the 100,000 set for cup finals at wembley except one the 126,047 West ham V Bolton and two at Crystal palace 120,081 in 1913 Villa v Sunderland and Villa against Newcastle in 1905 101,117,amazing crowds for that time.

williamstown
17-02-2010, 07:37
Don't know where you got this information from but I can think of at least 6 times Newcastle have played in matches where the official attendance has been 100,000.

Blackpool 1951 FA Cup Final
Arsenal 1952 FA Cup Final
Man City 1955 FA Cup Final
Liverpool 1974 FA Cup Final
Man City 1976 FA Cup Final
Dynamo Kiev 1997 Champions League group match

Found another 1905 v Villa ;)

mailsort
17-02-2010, 11:34
You've missed the biggest one of all
149,547 Scotland v England April 17th 1937.

mailsort
17-02-2010, 11:39
May I say well done Williamstown on this thread, very informative, thanks.

Steviep1962
17-02-2010, 11:48
Look at the Motherwell v Dundee crowd in 1952/53 136,304 !!!!!

Well researched.

my old man went to cup finals even if rangers weren`t in the final. it was norm for other fans to go to cup finals back then

craigla
17-02-2010, 12:12
Anybody know the last time we played in front of a 100,000 crowd?

away v.Dynamo Kiev in the european cup in 1987

britain
17-02-2010, 13:53
my old man went to cup finals even if rangers weren`t in the final. it was norm for other fans to go to cup finals back then

My old man went to the 1960 Real v Eintract European Cup Final at Hampden and the 1976 Bayern Munich v St Ettiene European Cup Final.

The Crowds were 135,00 and 63,269 respectively. I think the really big crowds were beginning to fall away in the mid 1970s.

There was also the factor that Stadium capacities were being reduced.

The Treble Kings
17-02-2010, 14:02
My old man went to the 1960 Real v Eintract European Cup Final at Hampden and the 1976 Bayern Munich v St Ettiene European Cup Final.

The Crowds were 135,00 and 63,269 respectively. I think the really big crowds were beginning to fall away in the mid 1970s.

There was also the factor that Stadium capacities were being reduced.

54,864 at that '76 Final.

williamstown
18-02-2010, 03:11
You've missed the biggest one of all
149,547 Scotland v England April 17th 1937.

Scotland games would take up another whole page so just kept it to club football in Britain, English 100,000 crowds are FA cup and Wembley unless stated.

23-24 West Ham v Bolton 126,047
12-13 Aston Villa v Sunderland 120,081 Crystal Palace
04-05 Aston Villa v Newcastle 101,117 Crystal palace
all the rest were 100,000 crowds at Wembley
50 Arsenal v Liverpool
51Newcastle v Blackpool
52 Newcastle v Arsenal
53 Blackpool v Bolton
54 West Brom v Preston
55 Newcastle v Man City
56 Man City v Birmingham
57 Aston Villa v Man Utd
58 Bolton v Man Utd
59 Nottm Forrest v Luton
60 Wolves v Blackburn
61 Spurs v Leicester
62 Spurs v Burnley
63 Man Utd v Leicester
64 West Ham v Preston
65 West Ham v Real Zaragosa Cup winners cup semi final
65 Liverpool v leeds
66 Everton v Sheffield Wednesday
67 Spurs v Chelsea
68 West Brom v Everton
69 Man City v Leicester
70 Chelsea v Leeds
71Arsenal v Liverpool
72 Leeds v Arsenal
73 Sunderland v Leeds
74 Liverpool v Newcastle
75 West Ham v Fulham
76 Southampton v Man Utd
77 Man Utd v Liverpool
78 Ipwich v Arsenal
79 Arsenal v Man Utd
80 West Ham v Arsenal
81 Spurs v Man City
82 Spurs v QPR
83 Man Utd v Brighton
84Everton v Watford
85 Man Utd v Everton

League cup finals(leave me alone im bored):D

71 Aston Villa v Spurs
72 Stoke v Chelsea
73 Spurs v Norwich
75 Aston Villa v Norwich
76 Man City v Newcastle
77 Aston Villa v Everton
78 Nottm Forrest v Liverpool
79 Nottm Forrest v Southampton
81 Liverpool v West Ham
82 Liverpool v Spurs
84 Liverpool v Everton
85 Norwich v Sunderland

williamstown
18-02-2010, 03:18
There were three on the 99,000 mark one on 99,500 in the 40s but they dont count as its the magic 100 we're talking about here and there were a lot more just below at Hampden Finals and indeed at Ibrox park.

williamstown
18-02-2010, 03:42
The Rangers hold the record crowds at 19 Scottish grounds to Celtics 6.

britain
18-02-2010, 06:24
54,864 at that '76 Final.

Cheers, dunno where I got that 1976 crowd from:o:o:o I knew it was about 55,000...

williamstown
20-02-2010, 06:11
Hampden 95,722
Piggery 83,500
Tynecastle 53,396
Shawfield 52,000
Firhill 49,838
Dens park 43,024
Rugy Park 35,995
Fir Park 35,632
Cliftonhill 27,381
Central park 25,586
Somerset park 25,225

11 of the 19,amazing we crammed in that many in Coatbrig and Cowdenbeath.

williamstown
24-02-2010, 04:12
Found this on wiki - dont know if it is relevant but its claiming to beat hampdens record (albeit non officially) i know this doesent count but its pretty impressive!

The Empire Stadium was built in exactly 300 days at the cost of 750,000. Described as the world's greatest sporting arena (at the time), it was ready only 4 days before the White Horse Final. The FA had not considered admission by ticket, grossly under-estimating the anticipation of the number of fans turning up to the 104 gates on match day. However, after the game, every event, apart from the 1982 replay,[14] since has been ticketed.


Billy the White Horse, saviour of the 1923 FA Cup Final.The first event held at the stadium was the FA Cup final on 28 April 1923 between Bolton Wanderers and West Ham United. This is known as the White Horse Final. Such was the eagerness of fans and casual observers to attend the final at the new national stadium that vast numbers of people crammed through the 104 turnstiles into the stadium, far exceeding its official 127,000 capacity. The crowds overflowed onto the pitch as there was no room on the terraces. Estimates of the number of fans in attendance range from 240,000[15] to well over 300,000.[16] It is estimated that another 60,000 were locked outside the gates. The FA were forced to refund 10% of the total gate money to fans unable to reach the terraces. The White Horse Final has the highest ever unofficial "non-racing" sports attendance in the world, which is very unlikely to be broken in the near future. (This claim, however, is disputed, as the Maracana held (officially) 199,854 fans during the 1950 World Cup final match between Brazil and Uruguay.) It was thought that the match would not be played because of the volume of spectators inside the stadium that had spilled onto the pitch. That was until mounted police, including Police Constable George Scorey and his white horse, Billy, slowly pushed the masses back to the sides of the field of play for the FA Cup Final to start, just 45 minutes late. In honour of Billy, the footbridge outside the new Wembley Stadium has been named the White Horse Bridge. The official attendance is often quoted as 126,047. The stadium also sported the largest football pitch in the world until it was made smaller to conform to FIFA regulations.

The white horse final was unofficial but im sure if we allowed fans on the pitch at hampden or ibrox they would have been on there,there were an estimated 30,000 locked out of Ibrox when we had our biggest league crowd,read that somewhere,white horse pics below.


http://i45.tinypic.com/egsbv4.jpg


http://i49.tinypic.com/2wm3ksi.jpg

britain
24-02-2010, 07:00
Wasnt really talking about the funny shaped baw but Murrayfield was a big ground,there was also an unofficial 100,000 at Stamford bridge when Chelsea played Dynamo moscow when the crowd were on to the dog track and on the roof of the stands. pic of that game at Chelsea.

http://i46.tinypic.com/j9vymb.jpg

No Health and Safety regulations being enforced in those days eh:eek:

williamstown
24-02-2010, 07:05
No Health and Safety regulations being enforced in those days eh:eek:

No cant brave enough to go and get them down more like.:D

britain
24-02-2010, 07:08
No cant brave enough to go and get them down more like.:D

Surely there were a few commandos home on leave as that game was in 1945 that would have got them...wait, these commandos might have been the ones on that roof:D

Nah they ain't bothering anybody,just leave them:D:D:D

williamstown
24-02-2010, 07:13
Surely there were a few commandos home on leave as that game was in 1945 that would have got them...wait, these commandos might have been the ones on that roof:D

Nah they ain't bothering anybody,just leave them:D:D:D

Laughing at the guy at the back standing up,must have a restricted view.:D:D

GF4
24-02-2010, 10:43
I was looking through youtube there and seen this video from a cup final in 1984. If you look near the split in the crowd at the halfway line you notice that there are hardly any dhims. was this the norm?, Mothers day?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih0JoTykCqY

The Treble Kings
24-02-2010, 11:59
I read in some Scottish Football book a few years back that Hampden Park and Ibrox Park were measured to hold 188,000 and 138,000 at their absolute maximum possible capacities!

:eek::eek::eek:

Can you f#cking imagine that?

The Treble Kings
24-02-2010, 12:09
Some of the crowds given do bamboozle me a little.

Unless the grounds changed dramatically from the olden days up to the 80's i do wonder about the records at Shawfield, Fir Park and Firhill.

Even the tattiedome having been in it with a 65,000 odd crowd it is difficult to see how they managed to get another 25,000 odd in, and i believe the "new" main stand there holds more than their old one when the record was set.

Most grounds had much larger terracing than they did in the 80s. What, d'you think we're all talking shite on this thread?
:roll::D

Daddy_Bear07
24-02-2010, 13:21
Most grounds had much larger terracing than they did in the 80s. What, d'you think we're all talking shite on this thread?
:roll::D

Well they must have been a hell of alot bigger. Cause some of the crowds to the size of the grounds dont add up. Is there any pics of these grounds from back in these days?

Gersandproud
24-02-2010, 14:22
Don't know where you got this information from but I can think of at least 6 times Newcastle have played in matches where the official attendance has been 100,000.

Blackpool 1951 FA Cup Final
Arsenal 1952 FA Cup Final
Man City 1955 FA Cup Final
Liverpool 1974 FA Cup Final
Man City 1976 FA Cup Final
Dynamo Kiev 1997 Champions League group match


Wasn't the 1976 F.A. Cup Final between Man Utd. V Southampton ?

Pavarotti
24-02-2010, 16:31
Murrayfield had a crowd of 104,000 for the Scotland v Wales Five Nations game in 1975. I think that's a British and European record for a Rugby game.

I was at that game with my school, feckin magic, but scary. :D

williamstown
25-02-2010, 05:35
Well they must have been a hell of alot bigger. Cause some of the crowds to the size of the grounds dont add up. Is there any pics of these grounds from back in these days?

Heres one from Douglas Park back in the late 30s,28,690 saw Hamilton beat Hearts



http://i45.tinypic.com/sfkq5s.jpg

most of the grounds like Firhill, Fir Park, Love Street ect were designed pretty much the same way a bit like broomfield below with a terracing going all the way round to either side of a main stand,Motherwell had a 35,000 capacity in the 30s.

http://i48.tinypic.com/10znzlz.jpg

britain
25-02-2010, 07:11
Wasnt really talking about the funny shaped baw but Murrayfield was a big ground,there was also an unofficial 100,000 at Stamford bridge when Chelsea played Dynamo moscow when the crowd were on to the dog track and on the roof of the stands. pic of that game at Chelsea.

http://i46.tinypic.com/j9vymb.jpg

They don't make roofs like that anymore do they ?:D:D:D

The ammount of people up there is amazing/frightening:eek:

britain
25-02-2010, 07:12
Wasn't the 1976 F.A. Cup Final between Man Utd. V Southampton ?

It was, but Man City v Newcatle was the League Cup Final that year, 2-1 City.

britain
25-02-2010, 13:58
In 1975, the first piece of Football Stadium Safety Legislation called 'The Safety of Sports Ground Act 1975' came into force.

Stadium capacity was reduced in many cases.

The Hampden Capcity was reduced from the high of 134,000 plus to 85,500 I think.

I970. Scotland v England 137,438.
1972. Scotland v England 119,325.
1974. Scotland v England 94,487.
1976. Scotland v England 85,165.

The capacity for the 1973 Scottish Cup Final was 134,000.

The Treble Kings
25-02-2010, 14:12
Well they must have been a hell of alot bigger. Cause some of the crowds to the size of the grounds dont add up. Is there any pics of these grounds from back in these days?

The terracings were a hell of a lot bigger. Safety legislation was almost non existent. Clubs set their own ground capacities.


In 1975, the first piece of Football Stadium Safety Legislation called 'The Safety of Sports Ground Act 1975' came into force.

Stadium capacity was reduced in many cases.

The Hampden Capcity was reduced from the high of 134,000 plus to 85,500 I think.

I970. Scotland v England 137,438.
1972. Scotland v England 119,325.
1974. Scotland v England 94,487.
1976. Scotland v England 85,165.

The capacity for the 1973 Scottish Cup Final was 134,000.

Then increased, after some work, to 88,000.

jonnymcc1
25-02-2010, 14:37
Would of loved to have been alive to go to a game with a crowd that size. Even to get to a game with standing would be brilliant.

britain
26-02-2010, 06:55
The terracings were a hell of a lot bigger. Safety legislation was almost non existent. Clubs set their own ground capacities.



Then increased, after some work, to 88,000.

Cheers couldn't find the crowd for Scotland v England in 1978. Think it was the full 88,000.

It was some capacity cut at Hampden wasn't it:eek:. Was the last 100,000 crowd there Scotland v Czechs World Cup Qualifier in 1973 ?

Officially anyway, as my old man still reckons there was 'way over 100,000' at the Rangers v Hearts 1976 Scottish Cup Final. He'd been in the large 134,000 crowds. (It was heaving that day.)
A gate was broken down and lots of spectators got in that way without being counted in the crowd.

The Treble Kings
26-02-2010, 09:51
It was some capacity cut at Hampden wasn't it:eek:. Was the last 100,000 crowd there Scotland v Czechs World Cup Qualifier in 1973 ?



95,786 at that game, mate.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/international_fixture_details.cfm?page=462&matchID=57464

britain
01-03-2010, 07:00
95,786 at that game, mate.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/international_fixture_details.cfm?page=462&matchID=57464

Cheers mate, so the 1973 Scottish Cup Final had the last 100,000 crowd in Scottish football.

72 Blue
01-03-2010, 07:21
Wasnt really talking about the funny shaped baw but Murrayfield was a big ground,there was also an unofficial 100,000 at Stamford bridge when Chelsea played Dynamo moscow when the crowd were on to the dog track and on the roof of the stands. pic of that game at Chelsea.

http://i46.tinypic.com/j9vymb.jpg


No Health and Safety regulations being enforced in those days eh:eek:


No cant brave enough to go and get them down more like.:D


They don't make roofs like that anymore do they ?:D:D:D

The amount of people up there is amazing/frightening:eek:


Anybody remember this bit of classic footage. :D:D:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egWbklcsfFw

britain
01-03-2010, 13:41
Some more Scotland v England crowd stats.

1978: 88,319

1980 and 1982: 80,000 for both.

1984: 73,064 and 1985 :66,489.

When you compare the 1970 crowd of 137,438 and the 1985 crowd of 66,489 that was some difference in attendance !

The Treble Kings
01-03-2010, 22:41
Some more Scotland v England crowd stats.

1978: 88,319

1980 and 1982: 80,000 for both.

1984: 73,064 and 1985 :66,489.

When you compare the 1970 crowd of 137,438 and the 1985 crowd of 66,489 that was some difference in attendance !

85,000 for the 1980 game, bud.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/international_fixture_details.cfm?page=462&matchID=57483

britain
02-03-2010, 06:54
85,000 for the 1980 game, bud.

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/international_fixture_details.cfm?page=462&matchID=57483

Cheers again, Next time I'll need to double check my stats:o:D

The Scotland V England game was I believe for many supporters, Rangers included until the late 1970s one of the Big Games of the Football Year.
My Grandfather and Old Man used to go to it at Hampden and Wembley on an annual basis. My grandfather began going in the early 1920s !

williamstown
03-03-2010, 04:11
Cant believe ive not mentioned yet the biggest migration of fans ever that we all played a part in,nobody in this land has ever seen anything like it or
are likely to again in my lifetime.



http://i47.tinypic.com/kegh8p.jpg


http://i47.tinypic.com/fac6yr.jpg

Ibrox that night
http://i48.tinypic.com/fonj4h.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/157nccg.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/34pywax.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/346p5zo.jpg


http://i48.tinypic.com/2j75z6.jpg

williamstown
03-03-2010, 04:36
Talking about Scotland at Hampden the top 10 crowds were against England.

1937 149,414
1939 149,269
1970 137,478
1948 135,376
1954 134,544
1952 134,504
1933 134,170
1968 134,000
1950 133,300
1964 133,245

britain
03-03-2010, 06:40
Good thread this eh !

Scottish Cup Final crowds 1976 -1983. Rangers played in themall.

1976. 85,000. Officially !
1977. 54,252.
1978. 61,563.
1979. 50,610, 33,504 1st Replayand 30,602 2nd Replay.These 3 attendances combined were still less than Final of 1973s attendance !
1980. 70,303.
1981. 53,346. 43,099 for Replay .
1982. 53,788
1983. 55,372

From 1977, the Final was shown live on TV. The replay of 1981 was shown in highlight form.
Not sure about the 1979 1st Replay.The 1979 2nd Replay wasn't covered by TV at all. I don't think.

britain
03-03-2010, 13:55
When Ibrox was to be rebuilt ,where did the 44,500 capacity come from ?

Was it the same capacity that the Borrusia Dortmunds stadium had. The one that Willie Waddell saw and used as the 'blueprint' for the rebuild Ibrox ?

The season before 77/78, we had 65,000 (seemd much more) for John Greigs Testimonial and 48,788 and 54,000 for the two games v Celtc in Sept 77 and Jan 78.

Just wondering !

williamstown
04-03-2010, 02:03
When Ibrox was to be rebuilt ,where did the 44,500 capacity come from ?

Was it the same capacity that the Borrusia Dortmunds stadium had. The one that Willie Waddell saw and used as the 'blueprint' for the rebuild Ibrox ?

The season before 77/78, we had 65,000 (seemd much more) for John Greigs Testimonial and 48,788 and 54,000 for the two games v Celtc in Sept 77 and Jan 78.

Just wondering !

As you say it was modelled on Dortmunds stadium and by 1981 when the Govan stand was finished it had around the same capacity, im sure the game in january 78 was the last played against the scum in front of the old Rangers end,we played the home games against them at Hampden the following season,Dortmund of course later ripped out some seats and made standing areas to meet the demands of their fans for league games and now it holds 80,000.

britain
04-03-2010, 06:47
As you say it was modelled on Dortmunds stadium and by 1981 when the Govan stand was finished it had around the same capacity, im sure the game in january 78 was the last played against the scum in front of the old Rangers end,we played the home games against them at Hampden the following season,Dortmund of course later ripped out some seats and made standing areas to meet the demands of their fans for league games and now it holds 80,000.

Thanks. I know Willie Waddell was driven by a policy of 'safety first' and rightly so after the 1971 Disaster.

As mentioned earlier, the crowds were on the decrease from the early to mid 70s in general so that was surely a factor.

And we never really filled Ibrox to its capacity regularly until Souness arrived in 86.

williamstown
04-03-2010, 07:06
Thanks. I know Willie Waddell was driven by a policy of 'safety first' and rightly so after the 1971 Disaster.

As mentioned earlier, the crowds were on the decrease from the early to mid 70s in general so that was surely a factor.

And we never really filled Ibrox to its capacity regularly until Souness arrived in 86.

We could have filled it three times over when Souness came,that was the proof of although thinking on a safety level which was right the size was always wrong and too small,the glory days always return at this club sometime and while Dortmund saw they needed to please the huge support and also get more money into the club.

williamstown
13-03-2010, 02:37
Everytime I hear the song follow follow I get all nostalgic and think about everybody who have followed the club through the years,the thousands who
flocked to our greatest victory in Barcelona and the huge support who travelled up and down the country in days gone by,the away grounds of course like Ibrox were all much larger than todays all seaters,heres the list of Rangers top 30 away crowds in order not counting the piggery and it starts with our biggest away crowd against Queens park at Hampden in a Scottish cup 1rst rnd tie.

1929-30 Hampden 95,722 Scottish cup
1944-45 Hampden 87,000 southern league cup
1918-19 Hampden 65,000 Charity cup
1952-53 Easter Road 60,500
1928-29 Hampden 60,000
1951-52 Easter Road 55,000
1931-32 Tynecastle 53,496 Scottish cup
1947-48 Easter Road 52,750
1912-13 Shawfield 52,000 Scottish cup
1949-50 Easter Road 51,500
1931-32 Hampden 50.376 Glasgow cup
1948-49 Easter Road 50,000
1921-22 Firhill 49,838
1972-73 Easter Road 49,007 Scottish cup
1956-57 Tynecastle 49,000
1953-54 Tynecastle 49,000
1933-34 Tynecastle 48,895 Scottish cup
1946-47 Easter Road 48,816 Scottish cup
1927-28 Firhill 48,000
1929-30 Firhill 48,000 Glasgow cup
1969-70 Love Street 48,000
1951-52 Tynecastle 47,684
1956-57 Tynecastle 47,484 Scottish cup
1964-65 Easter Road 47,363 Scottish cup
1955-56 Tynecastle 47,258
1922-23 Cathkin 47,000 Glasgow cup
1948-49 Easter Road 47,000
1955-56 Tynecastle 46,885 league cup
1949-50 Tynecastle 46,285
1953-54 Cathkin 45,591






Could go on but thats 30.

williamstown
13-03-2010, 02:43
Hibs and Hearts are pretty much covered above as im doing a top ten crowds
when Rangers played there,here's the top ten at Firhill against Partick.
1921-22. 53,000
1921-22. 49,838
1927-28. 48,000
1929-30. 48,000 Glasgow cup http://i50.tinypic.com/2ex67gg.jpg
1919-20. 45,000
1930-31. 43,500
1920-21. 42,000
1926-27. 40,000
1932-33. 40,000
1929-30. 40,000
1948-49. 40,000

williamstown
13-03-2010, 04:06
Love Street top 10 Rangers crowds

1969-70. 48,000
1949-50. 45,000
1952-53. 45,000
1968-69. 43,500
1935-36. 43,308
1955-56. 43,000
1948-49. 40,000
1949-50. 40,000
1948-49. 40,000 v Morton http://i45.tinypic.com/5cbmg6.jpg
1953-54. 37,500

williamstown
13-03-2010, 06:09
Pittodrie top 10 Rangers crowds

1967-68. 44,000
1947-48. 43,800
1949-50. 43,000
1948-49. 42,000
1950-51. 42,000
1950-51. 42,000 lc http://i47.tinypic.com/1zv8i0l.jpg
1935-36. 41,663
1961-62. 41,359
1962-63. 40,000
1949-50. 40,000

devondave1873
13-03-2010, 07:54
The higher picture of Picaddilly gardens is a telling one, as we've all seen the pics of the squares before, but that one shows the surrounding streets were also a sea of blue.

ibroxonian
13-03-2010, 11:42
This might be my favourite FF thread ever. Great work W1690

One factor in big crowds along with capacity was that very few games required a ticket

I started going to games in the late 60s and until the Souness era tickets were rarely an issue outside of Scotland v England and occassional cup finals - I was at the 76 final but can't recall if it was ticket??

Went to Easter Rd for the title winning game in 75 and it was pay at the gate

Recall the horror game at Parkhead in 79 and getting off the bus at Parkhead to buy Rangers end tickets at 6pm on the evening of the game!

Woukd think that pretty much every competitive game we have played since 86-7 has been all ticket?

Rangerista
13-03-2010, 12:01
The Rangers who else,Looked at all the big crowds over the years and despite
having many 90,000 + crowds at Ibrox and being the only club Ground to do so (ignoring the lies from the scum,who turned 83 to 92)I decided to find out about 100,000 + crowds that were mainly at cup finals and semies but a few like the four games at Ibrox two cup ties and two league games against Hibs and them,what stands out is how far ahead we are from the rest.



The list below gives the amount of times each club has played in front of a crowd of 100,000 or more in the UK -

41 Rangers
26 Celtic
12 Man United
10 Liverpool
9 Aberdeen, Spurs
7 Arsenal,Newcastle
6 Aston Villa, West Ham, Man City, Everton, Hibernian,
4 Notts Forest, Leeds, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Morton,
3 Sunderland, Bolton, Wolverhampton, Leicester, Chelsea, Norwich, St Mirren,Hearts,
2 Blackpool, West Brom, Preston, Southampton, Brighton, Clyde, East Fife,
Dundee, Dunfermline, Eintract Frankfurt,
1 Sheffield United, Birmingham, Luton, Blackburn, Burnley, Sheffield
Wed, Fulham, Ipswich, QPR, Watford, Stoke, Benfica, Munich 1860, Real Madrid

Note 14 of their games were against us.

Can you give more info on the fiddling of the Beggars record attendance figure?

east enclosure eddie
13-03-2010, 15:51
thank you to all posters on this thread especially williamstown 1690 and britian you really have made this very interesting to see how big this game was in scotland and to be able to show that appart from huge countrys like brazil and spain that a smaal country of our size can be so interested in this great game. I feel proud and honoured to follow in the footsteps of litterally million of bears who have wandered down the copland road with there wee pal joe to our fine and wonderful establishment. I also feel that you should give us some more info on the scotland games. I know this is cheeky but youve got me hooked on this subject and i really dont think i could get this info as accurate or as fast as your good selves. Thank you thank you thank you

jaws73
13-03-2010, 16:00
And finally the 1972-73 Scottish cup final 122,714.

I've often wondered how many were really there that day.

The Rangers end was so tightly packed (like Sardines in a tin) we were stood at the rear of the covered terracing and involuntarily found ourselves squeezed dowmwards all the way onto the edge of the pitch from where police relocated us into a (slightly) less dense area. I wouldn't be surprised if the crowd was approaching 150,000 that day as Hampden seemed packed all around.

davie51
13-03-2010, 16:04
what have we not done?

britain
13-03-2010, 22:30
Can't imagine nearly 50,000 in Love St !

Oh and its nearly all pulled down.

britain
13-03-2010, 22:45
thank you to all posters on this thread especially williamstown 1690 and britian you really have made this very interesting to see how big this game was in scotland and to be able to show that appart from huge countrys like brazil and spain that a smaal country of our size can be so interested in this great game. I feel proud and honoured to follow in the footsteps of litterally million of bears who have wandered down the copland road with there wee pal joe to our fine and wonderful establishment. I also feel that you should give us some more info on the scotland games. I know this is cheeky but youve got me hooked on this subject and i really dont think i could get this info as accurate or as fast as your good selves. Thank you thank you thank you

I thank you mate. I'm just interested in the crowd sizes and the Ibrox aspect of our history. I'll try and dig out some Scotland crowd info for you.

britain
13-03-2010, 23:52
Scotland v Wales 1978, 'Home Championships' match on a Wed nightsaw a crowd of 70,241 !

The night Derek Johnstone scored a brilliant header from about the penalty spot and Willie Donachie a late og for Wales !!

BAUXBLUE
13-03-2010, 23:57
Not in the UK,just the last time we played in a 100,000 crowd.

Kiev away.;)

williamstown
14-03-2010, 04:18
I've often wondered how many were really there that day.

The Rangers end was so tightly packed (like Sardines in a tin) we were stood at the rear of the covered terracing and involuntarily found ourselves squeezed dowmwards all the way onto the edge of the pitch from where police relocated us into a (slightly) less dense area. I wouldn't be surprised if the crowd was approaching 150,000 that day as Hampden seemed packed all around.

That was my first cup final mate and as you say it was sardines and quite frightening for a youngster like myself at the time,I was at the Hearts game when we did the treble in 76 and I still wonder about that official crowd given
at the time.

williamstown
14-03-2010, 04:48
This might be my favourite FF thread ever. Great work W1690

One factor in big crowds along with capacity was that very few games required a ticket

I started going to games in the late 60s and until the Souness era tickets were rarely an issue outside of Scotland v England and occassional cup finals - I was at the 76 final but can't recall if it was ticket??

Went to Easter Rd for the title winning game in 75 and it was pay at the gate

Recall the horror game at Parkhead in 79 and getting off the bus at Parkhead to buy Rangers end tickets at 6pm on the evening of the game!

Woukd think that pretty much every competitive game we have played since 86-7 has been all ticket?

A lot of safety restrictions came in before the all seater in the 70s,grounds capacitys were reduced,the first games that were all ticket were the old firm games but its cloudy on my mind when exactly it started everywhere.

williamstown
14-03-2010, 05:02
I read in some Scottish Football book a few years back that Hampden Park and Ibrox Park were measured to hold 188,000 and 138,000 at their absolute maximum possible capacities!

:eek::eek::eek:

Can you f#cking imagine that?

They were,and I wonder if there were a few skins made over the years,one to me one to them,we did fill them up bloody to bursting points sometimes.;)

williamstown
14-03-2010, 05:23
Dens park top 10 involving the Gers ,a bigger stadium than Tannadice

http://i29.tinypic.com/261ygb6.jpg

1952-53. 43,024
1935-36. 42,500
1921-22. 39,000
1947-48. 39,000
1948-48. 39,000
1950-51. 37,400
1962-63. 36,839
1961-62. 35,000
1963-64. 34,500
1954-55. 34,000

Shawfield Rangers v Clyde top 10

http://i49.tinypic.com/mj25tw.jpg

1912-13. 52,000
1910-11. 42,000 Glasgow cup
1922-23. 40,000
1913-14. 36,000
1920-21. 36,000
1909-10. 35,000
1911-12. 35,000
1928-29. 34,000
1954-55. 32,000
1922-23. 31,000

Fir park top 10 Motherwell v Rangers

http://i49.tinypic.com/ezhq13.jpg

1959-60. 37,000 league cup
1951-52. 36,632 scottish cup
1959-60. 36,000 league cup
1952-53. 35,000 league cup
1948-49. 35,000
1958-59. 32,977
1952-53. 32,720
1949-50. 32,000 scottish cup
1960-61. 32,000
1932-33. 30,000


Rugby park Kilmarnock v Rangers top 10

http://i46.tinypic.com/ab6yia.jpg

1961-62. 35,995
1963-64. 34,246 league cup
1953-54. 33,545 scottish cup
1968-69. 32,893
1932-33. 32,745
1946-47. 32,325
1964-65. 32,021
1966-67. 31,551
1924-25. 31,502 scottish cup
1928-29. 30,000

Hampden top 10 Queens park v Rangers

http://i47.tinypic.com/jqt1si.jpg

1929-30. 95,722 scottish cup
1944-45. 87,000 southern league cup
1918-19. 65,000 charity cup
1928-29. 60,000
1931-32. 50,376 Glasgow cup
1921-22. 43,000 charity cup
1920-21. 40,000 Glasgow cup
1938-39. 40,000
1945-46. 40,000
1946-47. 40,000

At Cathkin park top 10 third Lanark v Rangers

http://i50.tinypic.com/iypjk2.jpg

1922-23. 47,000 Glasgow cup
1953-54. 45,591
1952-53. 42,000
1921-22. 40,000 Glasgow cup
1931-32. 40,000
1961-62. 37,000
1946-47. 35,000
1948-49. 35,000
1958-59. 35,000
1954-55. 30,000 Glasgow cup

williamstown
17-03-2010, 04:35
The Piggery v them top 10 Rangers crowds

http://i46.tinypic.com/2ls7bt3.jpg

1937-38. 83,500
1913-14. 80,000
1919-20. 80,000
1971-72. 77,811
1967-68. 75,000
1967-68. 75,000 league cup
1968-69. 75,000 league cup
1968-69. 75,000
1969-70. 75,000
1970-71. 75,000

Ibrox top ten crowds

http://i50.tinypic.com/jzyzio.jpg

1938-39. 118,730 v celtic
1948-49. 105,000 v celtic league cup
1950-51. 102,342 v Hibs scottish cup
1949-50. 101,000 v Hibs
1936-37. 95,000 v celtic
1944-45. 95,000 v Dynamo Moscow
1946-47. 95,000 v Hibs scottish cup
1948-49. 95,000 v celtic
1949-50. 95,000 v celtic league cup
1952-53. 95,000 v celtic league cup

britain
18-03-2010, 06:58
They were,and I wonder if there were a few skins made over the years,one to me one to them,we did fill them up bloody to bursting points sometimes.;)

In most cases back then, the actual attendance was sheer guesswork.

It was a case of 'pack them in' with little or no regard to safety.

Kis usually got 'lifted over' the turnstiles, two people would squeeze in and the turnstile would only register one (sometimes the turnstile operator would take 'a wee charge' for this to occur).This would happen if it was an all ticket match too, One with ticket, one without and wee charge.

HARRY D 9
24-03-2010, 15:58
Williamstown 1690
1960-61 90,000 v Motherwell, was this a Scottish Cup Quarter final replay
which we lost 5-2
I was there and I,m sure the crowd was given as 105,000

Bluebritain
24-03-2010, 16:47
Was Palace's ground still called Selhurst Park when they got over 100k inside?

Stealing the 4 British Stadiums to have over 100k in it for a Quiz Question.

britain
24-03-2010, 16:56
Williamstown 1690
1960-61 90,000 v Motherwell, was this a Scottish Cup Quarter final replay
which we lost 5-2
I was there and I,m sure the crowd was given as 105,000

Had a look and that 1961 SC replay v Motherwell crowd was given as 90,000.

britain
24-03-2010, 16:58
Was Palace's ground still called Selhurst Park when they got over 100k inside?

Stealing the 4 British Stadiums to have over 100k in it for a Quiz Question.

Don't think so, think the Selhurst Park record crowd was 50,000 or so in 1979, when Crystal Palace won promotion to Division 1.

Earl of Leven
24-03-2010, 17:14
It was The Valley that was London's largest football stadium....not Selhurst Park. But it was nearer 76,000 it held I think.

Bluebritain
24-03-2010, 17:19
It was The Valley that was London's largest football stadium....not Selhurst Park. But it was nearer 76,000 it held I think.

Yeh i cant find anywhere on the Internet that says Palace have had over 100k in there Stadium.

I was just going by the pictures on the 1st page.

Muzzinihio
24-03-2010, 17:19
Can't imagine nearly 50,000 in Love St !

Oh and its nearly all pulled down.

I thought they had would have pulled it all done by now.

britain
24-03-2010, 17:24
FA Cup Finals were held at Crystal Palace from 1895 -1914. It is the same ground that the athletics stadium is now on.

1901 FA Cup Final saw a crowd of 114,815. 1913 FA Cup Final saw a crowd of 121,919 !

britain
24-03-2010, 17:27
I thought they had would have pulled it all done by now.

Nearly all gone, it's going to be houses there soon.

HarryP1980
24-03-2010, 17:31
Could we fill a 100,000 stadium for any game other than say a European final?

lutonloyal
24-03-2010, 17:36
One of the best threads ever. I've always been fascinated with attendances,such a shame i never went to the 'old' Ibrox.

I think i'm right in saying we hold the record for travelling support on 2 occasions - Champions League Group game 25,000 at Barcelona & of course Manchester 200,000+

Earl of Leven
24-03-2010, 17:50
In 1938 The Valley had 75,500 for Charlton v Aston Villa in FA cup.

williamstown
25-03-2010, 02:11
Was Palace's ground still called Selhurst Park when they got over 100k inside?

Stealing the 4 British Stadiums to have over 100k in it for a Quiz Question.

The original Crystal palace side were amateurs from 1861,by 1905 the owners of the ground wanted a professional team playing at the venue which was turned into a football arena around 1894 on the grounds of what was called the crystal palace built to host the great exhibition in 1851
so the new Crystal Palace football team was formed,they left the stadium in 1915 forced out by the admiralty who took over the area during the war,selhurst park was built in 1924,the stadiums would be football ones of course in your question as there have been others outside of football notably the white city stadium in London thats held 100,000 crowds for dog racing and other events.

williamstown
25-03-2010, 02:25
It was The Valley that was London's largest football stadium....not Selhurst Park. But it was nearer 76,000 it held I think.

It was actually Stamford bridge that was the largest in London apart from the old Crystal palace ground and Wembley,it held 82,905 against Arsenal and the only two higher crowds at a club ground in England were at Maine road Manchester.

williamstown
25-03-2010, 02:35
Yeh i cant find anywhere on the Internet that says Palace have had over 100k in there Stadium.

I was just going by the pictures on the 1st page.


Its about separating Crystal palace the club from the ground they once played in,the Crystal palace ground held cup finals not involving the team that played there regularly,a bit like Queens park and the Hampden ground that holds all the records.

britain
25-03-2010, 06:45
The original Crystal palace side were amateurs from 1861,by 1905 the owners of the ground wanted a professional team playing at the venue which was turned into a football arena around 1894 on the grounds of what was called the crystal palace built to host the great exhibition in 1851
so the new Crystal Palace football team was formed,they left the stadium in 1915 forced out by the admiralty who took over the area during the war,selhurst park was built in 1924,the stadiums would be football ones of course in your question as there have been others outside of football notably the white city stadium in London thats held 100,000 crowds for dog racing and other events.

Pretty sure 'The White City Stadium' was built for the 1908 London Olmpic Games.
It had a capacity for 100,000. It was demolished (late 80s/early 90s ?) and its grounds are now part of a BBC Car Park.

williamstown
25-03-2010, 06:53
Pretty sure 'The White City Stadium' was built for the 1908 London Olmpic Games.
It had a capacity for 100,000. It was demolished (late 80s/early 90s ?) and its grounds are now part of a BBC Car Park.

It was built for the olympics,there were many huge crowds when they used it for greyhound racing and athletics.

britain
25-03-2010, 07:08
It was built for the olympics,there were many huge crowds when they used it for greyhound racing and athletics.

Yes mate, it was the 'home of British athletics' after Stamford Bridge and (ironically) before Crystal Palace.

williamstown
27-03-2010, 04:48
The cup was always the big draw for crowds back in the day and while the biggest crowds were in semies and finals at Hampden we had some amazing crowds at Ibrox in earlier rounds of both cups.
Here's the top 20 cup crowds at Ibrox.


48-49. 105,000 v Celtic league cup sections match
50-51. 102,342 v Hibs Scottish cup 2nd rnd
49-50. 95,000 v celtic league cup sections match
52-53. 95,000 v celtic Scottish cup quarter final
46-47. 95,000 v Hibs Scottish cup 2nd rnd
67-68. 94,168 v celtic league cup sections match
47-48. 90,000 v East Fife Scottish cup quarter final
60-61. 90,000 v Motherwell Scottish cup 3rd rnd
31-32. 88,000 v Motherwell Scottish cup quarter final
56-57. 88,000 v celtic Scottish cup 2nd rnd
19-20. 85,000 v celtic Scottish cup quarter final
71-72. 85,000 v celtic league cup sections match
63-64. 84,724 v Clyde Scottish cup quarter final
56-57. 84,000 v celtic league cup sections match
51-52. 82,000 v Motherwell Scottish cup quarter final
62-63. 81,190 v Dundee Scottish cup quarter final
26-27. 80,000 v Falkirk Scottish cup quarter final
47-48. 80,000 v celtic league cup sections match
57-58. 78,000 v Kilmarnock league cup quarter final
48-49. 76,466 v Hibs league cup sections match

britain
28-03-2010, 20:26
Wee bump as somebody is looking for it.

storyoftheblues
28-03-2010, 20:32
where did ye get yer stats, mate?

Interesting stuff.

I reckon SC Final 1973 122,000 approx

britain
29-03-2010, 05:50
The cup was always the big draw for crowds back in the day and while the biggest crowds were in semies and finals at Hampden we had some amazing crowds at Ibrox in earlier rounds of both cups.
Here's the top 20 cup crowds at Ibrox.


48-49. 105,000 v Celtic league cup sections match
50-51. 102,342 v Hibs Scottish cup 2nd rnd
49-50. 95,000 v celtic league cup sections match
52-53. 95,000 v celtic Scottish cup quarter final
46-47. 95,000 v Hibs Scottish cup 2nd rnd
67-68. 94,168 v celtic league cup sections match
47-48. 90,000 v East Fife Scottish cup quarter final
60-61. 90,000 v Motherwell Scottish cup 3rd rnd
31-32. 88,000 v Motherwell Scottish cup quarter final
56-57. 88,000 v celtic Scottish cup 2nd rnd
19-20. 85,000 v celtic Scottish cup quarter final
71-72. 85,000 v celtic league cup sections match
63-64. 84,724 v Clyde Scottish cup quarter final
56-57. 84,000 v celtic league cup sections match
51-52. 82,000 v Motherwell Scottish cup quarter final
62-63. 81,190 v Dundee Scottish cup quarter final
26-27. 80,000 v Falkirk Scottish cup quarter final
47-48. 80,000 v celtic league cup sections match
57-58. 78,000 v Kilmarnock league cup quarter final
48-49. 76,466 v Hibs league cup sections match

The 80,000 v Falkirk in 26/27 SCQF seems a bit of a surprisingly large crowd. The other teams shown in the list were all big teams at the given date and so the big crowds attending weren't a surprise.

90minsofmadness
29-03-2010, 07:47
brilliant stuff

britain
30-03-2010, 12:43
Did a bit of research re the Falkirk 80,000 crowd in 26/27.

It was a Scottish Cup QF replay taking place on Wed 9th March 1927 after the original game took place on Sat 5th March. We lost 1-0.

How did everybody attending get time off work/school as it'd have been a Wed a'noon game !

We won the 1926/27 League Championship and Falkirk finished a respectable 6th.

Westberksloyal
30-03-2010, 13:47
The four games at Ibrox, 1938-39 Rangers 2 scum 1 118,730 in the league,1948-49 Rangers 2 scum 1 again in the league cup 105,000,1949-50 Rangers v Hibs 0-0 101,000 league game,1950-51 Scottish cup Rangers 2 Hibs 3 102,342.

Thus proving that

1- We Are The People, and

2- Hibernian really were the 2nd team in the 50s!

Chalky_gers
30-03-2010, 13:54
Excellent !

alwaysfirst
30-03-2010, 14:28
I went to see the tarriers at Hampden v Dunfermilne (65) Aberdeen (67) Leeds (71) and Ajax (about 73). I believe there was more tolerance then. I hate being in the same ground as them now.

williamstown
31-03-2010, 01:00
The 80,000 v Falkirk in 26/27 SCQF seems a bit of a surprisingly large crowd. The other teams shown in the list were all big teams at the given date and so the big crowds attending weren't a surprise.

Just gave the top 20 but there were many just below the Hibs crowd in the 75,000 and below in early rounds as well,Clyde were a second division side as well when we played them in the 60s,the cup just had that magic appeal to fans back then.

britain
31-03-2010, 05:42
Just gave the top 20 but there were many just below the Hibs crowd in the 75,000 and below in early rounds as well,Clyde were a second division side as well when we played them in the 60s,the cup just had that magic appeal to fans back then.



The Scottish Cup was the glamour trophy to win until relatively recently. The League Championship has taken over with all the prestige money involved in the CL.

The 80,000 v Falkirk in 1927 would have been a very high attendance for Ibrox.

The Treble Kings
31-03-2010, 10:23
The Scottish Cup was the glamour trophy to win until relatively recently. The League Championship has taken over with all the prestige money involved in the CL.

The 80,000 v Falkirk in 1927 would have been a very high attendance for Ibrox.

Nah, mate, I'm not having that. I'm 44 this year and the Scottish Cup has never been the more 'glamorous' trophy in my experience. Any team can win a knockout cup, but to be league champions, a team has to consistently prove they're the best team over a long campaign. Up until relatively recently the Scottish League had fairly strong, powerful and respected teams and to win it was an achievement.

Larkhall_Exile
31-03-2010, 10:39
good thread this. very informative.

tarrman
31-03-2010, 10:45
Brilliant stats

nae wonder nobody could go for a piss

britain
31-03-2010, 12:49
Nah, mate, I'm not having that. I'm 44 this year and the Scottish Cup has never been the more 'glamorous' trophy in my experience. Any team can win a knockout cup, but to be league champions, a team has to consistently prove they're the best team over a long campaign. Up until relatively recently the Scottish League had fairly strong, powerful and respected teams and to win it was an achievement.

Just thought the Scottish Cup had prestige until recently. I started going in 74/75 and the League Championship was certainly the trophy to win then.

Just looking at the 1973 Scottish Cup Final crowd of 122,000 makes me wonder if that was the size because of the 'Rangers are back feeling' of that season (when we ran Celtc very close in the League).

I accept any team can win a knockout cup as Raith Rovers proved in 1994/95:D;)

britain
02-04-2010, 08:01
There was a 100,000 in Ibrox for The 1938 Empire Exhibition opening, when King George and Queen Elizabeth arrived at the Stadium.

Okay, so Rangers weren't playing, but i just thought I'd share this piece of Ibrox crowd trivia with you lot...

farley1968
02-04-2010, 08:12
Nah, mate, I'm not having that. I'm 44 this year and the Scottish Cup has never been the more 'glamorous' trophy in my experience. Any team can win a knockout cup, but to be league champions, a team has to consistently prove they're the best team over a long campaign. Up until relatively recently the Scottish League had fairly strong, powerful and respected teams and to win it was an achievement.


Unfortunately most National Cup competitions have suffered massively due to the CL money. Now it is essential for top clubs to get into the CL and most aren't that bothered about the cups. Sad to see this especially in England where finishing 4th in the league is more important than winning th FA Cup.

In recent years we've seen Man Utd and other teams fielding virtually 2nd string teams in the cup and saving their full strength sides for the league. Look at our team vs Dundee Utd last week!

I think the league was always the most important trophy, the cup may have had the end of season big day out, but the league was far more important.
I also think Sky Tv has runied football.:eek:

am proud 2 b blue
02-04-2010, 08:43
excellent thread mate, I remember going with my da and uncles as well. had to get lifted up to see any of the game. nobody went to the toilets - thats what ther cans and half bottles were for - once empty

williamstown
03-04-2010, 03:53
Brilliant stats

nae wonder nobody could go for a piss

Having had experience of a few big crowds on the terracing you went for a piss before or after,but with the tendancy to partake in a swally before every game the McEwans export can came in handy.;)

williamstown
03-04-2010, 04:01
Nah, mate, I'm not having that. I'm 44 this year and the Scottish Cup has never been the more 'glamorous' trophy in my experience. Any team can win a knockout cup, but to be league champions, a team has to consistently prove they're the best team over a long campaign. Up until relatively recently the Scottish League had fairly strong, powerful and respected teams and to win it was an achievement.

That apart and I agree the leagues always been more important the crowds for cup ties were way above league attendances,it was the one off that thrilled the fans back then,the Scottish cup always had that magic being the oldest trophy a prestige that has wained through time and chasing European glory.

williamstown
03-04-2010, 04:25
Thus proving that

1- We Are The People, and

2- Hibernian really were the 2nd team in the 50s!


They were as were the Hearts in the late 50s,the scum did nothing after the war until Stein arrived at the piggery.

williamstown
03-04-2010, 04:39
The first 6 figure crowd in Scotland was in 1925 Rangers v celtic at Hampden
semi final 101,714.

britain
03-04-2010, 11:49
The first 6 figure crowd in Scotland was in 1925 Rangers v celtic at Hampden
semi final 101,714.

Yes, but lets not mention the score that day:eek:

williamstown
07-04-2010, 00:24
At the end of the WW2 two great sides emerged from it stronger than the rest,The Rangers and Hibernian or the iron curtain famously tagged defence although we had superb players throughout the team and the famous five of Hibs,in the last year of War such was the joy and good feeling around that football was to see a boomtime never seen before,95,000 watched a friendly with Dinamo Moscow at Ibrox, we had 90,000 in the specially arranged victory cup semi final against Celtic at Hampden and 100,000 saw the final against Hibernian,in the southern league cup final (the forerunner for the new league cup) 135,000 saw the final with Aberdeen.

Hibernian were Rangers main challengers in the first seven years after the
wars end with only one year when Dundee split the two,the crowds between them
in the 21 games in this time were.


1946-47. 50,000 Ibrox league and 95,000 scottish cup at Ibrox
41,378 in the league and 48,816 scottish cup replay Easter Road
+ 125,154 League cup semi at Hampden.

1947-48. 55,000 Ibrox and 52,750 Easter road
+ Scottish cup semi Hampden 143,570

1948-49. 50,000 Ibrox league and 74,466 league cup at Ibrox
50,000 league and 47,000 League cup at Easter road

1949-50. 101,000 at Ibrox and 51,500 Easter road

1950-51. 80,000 league Ibrox and 102,342 Scottish cup at Ibrox
40,000 at Easter road

1951-52. 45,000 Ibrox and 55,000 Easter road

1952-53. 65,000 Ibrox and 65,500 Easter road.

stratfordbear
07-04-2010, 00:35
First time ive seen this thread

Hairs standing up on the back of my neck loyal

Some fantastic stats there

Well done Willamstown for enlighting some of us younger bears

williamstown
07-04-2010, 00:46
First time ive seen this thread

Hairs standing up on the back of my neck loyal

Some fantastic stats there

Well done Willamstown for enlighting some of us younger bears

Im just fascinated by the crowds and the terracings we packed out before
football became a comfortable place to take the wife and weans:D

williamstown
07-04-2010, 02:18
The first treble winning side were the best supported in our history

They played 30 league games in front of a total of 1,182,761
cup games took the seasons total to 2,061,793
the following season they were again over the 2 million mark 2,056,316
these figures have never been equalled.

In Sounesses first full season 1,272,239 watched the league campaign a bigger
stat than 1948-49 but we played 14 games more,the 44 games in that league season were the same amount including cup games the treble winners played in,they remain the only side to have played to over two million in not one but two seasons.

williamstown
07-04-2010, 02:50
The first treble winning teams crowds

v Hibs. 76,466 lc and 50,000 Ibrox,47,000 lc and 50,000 Easter road.
v Dundee. 55,000 Ibrox and 39,000 Dens park,50,996 Hampden Lc semi
v Partick Th. 55,000 and 65,000 sc at Ibrox,40,000 firhill
v St Mirren. 50,000 lc and 40,000 Ibrox,40,000 love street
v Motherwell. 55,000 Ibrox,35,000 and 31,000 sc Fir Park
v celtic. 95,000 and 105,000Lc Ibrox,50,000 and 65,000Lc piggery
v Clyde. 50,000 and 50,000 LC Ibrox,25,000 and 27,000 Shawfld Lc,120,162 SCF Hampden
V Aberdeen. 45,000 Ibrox,42,000 pittodrie
v East Fife. 35,000 Ibrox,20,737 bayview,104,958 semi final SC.
V Hearts. 45,000 Ibrox,40,824 Tynecastle
v Morton. 25,000 Ibrox,40,000 love street
v Falkirk. 40,000 Ibrox,21,000 Brockville
v Third Lanark. 35,000 Ibrox,35,000 Cathkin
v QOTS. 28,000 Ibrox,20,200 palmerston
v Albion Rovers 16,000 Ibrox,15,000 cliftonhill.
v Elgin 29,000 Ibrox SC.
V Raith Rovers 57,450 Lc Final Hampden

Aunty Christ
07-04-2010, 06:43
Aff the back of a broon envelope. :D

It used to be a fag packet....but he gave up smoking. (Murphy)

britain
07-04-2010, 11:37
The first treble winning teams crowds

v Hibs. 76,466 lc and 50,000 Ibrox,47,000 lc and 50,000 Easter road.
v Dundee. 55,000 Ibrox and 39,000 Dens park,50,996 Hampden Lc semi
v Partick Th. 55,000 and 65,000 sc at Ibrox,40,000 firhill
v St Mirren. 50,000 lc and 40,000 Ibrox,40,000 love street
v Motherwell. 55,000 Ibrox,35,000 and 31,000 sc Fir Park
v celtic. 95,000 and 105,000Lc Ibrox,50,000 and 65,000Lc piggery
v Clyde. 50,000 and 50,000 LC Ibrox,25,000 and 27,000 Shawfld Lc,120,162 SCF Hampden
V Aberdeen. 45,000 Ibrox,42,000 pittodrie
v East Fife. 35,000 Ibrox,20,737 bayview,104,958 semi final SC.
V Hearts. 45,000 Ibrox,40,824 Tynecastle
v Morton. 25,000 Ibrox,40,000 love street
v Falkirk. 40,000 Ibrox,21,000 Brockville
v Third Lanark. 35,000 Ibrox,35,000 Cathkin
v QOTS. 28,000 Ibrox,20,200 palmerston
v Albion Rovers 16,000 Ibrox,15,000 cliftonhill.
v Elgin 29,000 Ibrox SC.
V Raith Rovers 57,450 Lc Final Hampden

The crowds at Hampden that season for the games v Clyde - 120,162 and East Fife - 104,958 are truly amazing !

Backstreets
12-04-2010, 12:14
The list below gives the amount of times each club has played in front of a crowd of 100,000 or more in the UK -
41 Rangers
26 Celtic

Note 14 of their games were against us.
"Aye bit . . . how many of your 41 games were against us?" :mad:
Typical Timmy response when presented with facts. :D

DILEAS2000
12-04-2010, 12:50
i remember back in 1989 scottish cup final the sfa saying that if both rangers and celtic had received the tickets they had applications for that they would have to build a 250,000 seater stadium.

britain
14-04-2010, 05:50
Think there was 74,000 at 1989 Scottish Cup Final.

Wee bump, since the question of big/low crowds has arisen again.

britain
14-04-2010, 05:51
Oh and it cost 4 for a 'Rangers end' terracing ticket for 1989 Scottish Cup Final.

williamstown
08-05-2010, 04:12
Here's the full 100,000 + Rangers record

143,570 v Hibs 1947-48
135,000 v Aberdeen 1945-46
133,750 v Morton 1947-48
132,870 v celtic 1968-69
131,975 v Morton 1947-48
129,762 v Aberdeen 1952-53
129,643 v celtic 1962-63
127,940 v StMirren 1961-62
126,599 v celtic 1965-66
125,154 v Hibs 1946-47
122,714 v celtic 1972-73
120,952 v Dundee 1963-64
120,273 v celtic 1962-63
120,162 v Clyde 1948-49
120,092 v celtic 1970-71
120,015 v East Fife 1949-50
118,730 v celtic 1938-39
118,115 v celtic 1927-28
116,262 v Hearts 1952-53
114,780 v Kilmarnock 1928-29
113,700 v Aberdeen 1952-53
113,403 v St Mirren 1933-34
111,982 v Kilmarnock 1931-32
110,739 v Aberdeen 1953-54
108,017 v Kilmarnock 1959-60
107,609 v celtic 1965-66
107,475 v Partick Thistle 1929-30
106,263 v celtic 1970-71
105,907 v Morton 1963-64
105,695 v Kilmarnock 1931-32
105,000 v celtic 1948-49
104,958 v East Fife 1948-49
104,679 v Eintracht Frankfurt 1961-62
103,688 v Partick Thistle 1929-30
103,332 v celtic 1970-71
102,661 v Hearts 1934-35
102,342 v Hibs 1950-51
101,714 v celtic 1924-25
101,000 v Hibs 1949-50
100,000 v Hibs 1945-46

We've had two abroad,one in Kiev and the other in Barcelona.

Wrote Moscow last night changed to the correct Kiev,drunken mix up mr Britain.:D

williamstown
08-05-2010, 04:19
I was sure from memory there were 100,000 at the Centenary game against Arsenal(They charged admission prices from 1873), but have since read on FF it was much less.

The biggest crowd against Arsenal was 80,000 in 1953-54.

williamstown
08-05-2010, 05:05
It used to be a fag packet....but he gave up smoking. (Murphy)

Gave up? your getting me confused wae 72 Blue who smokes a kid on plastic reefer.:D

williamstown
08-05-2010, 05:57
I think we've had in fact I know we've had many many more 70, 80 to 90,000 + crowds than anybody as well in Britain,but thats just the truth and the legend of the club we all follow.

Rabenutam
08-05-2010, 08:49
Here's the full 100,000 + Rangers record

143,570 v Hibs
135,000 v Aberdeen
133,750 v Morton
132,870 v celtic
131,975 v Morton
129,762 v Aberdeen
129,643 v celtic
127,940 v StMirren
126,599 v celtic
125,154 v Hibs
122,714 v celtic
120,952 v Dundee
120,273 v celtic
120,162 v Clyde
120,092 v celtic
120,015 v East Fife
118,730 v celtic
118,115 v celtic
116,262 v Hearts
114,780 v Kilmarnock
113,700 v Aberdeen
113,403 v St Mirren
111,982 v Kilmarnock
110,739 v Aberdeen
108,017 v Kilmarnock
107,609 v celtic
107,475 v Partick Thistle
106,263 v celtic
105,907 v Morton
105,695 v Kilmarnock
105,000 v celtic
104,958 v East Fife
104,679 v Eintracht Frankfurt
103,688 v Partick Thistle
103,332 v celtic
102,661 v Hearts
102,342 v Hibs
101,714 v celtic
101,000 v Hibs
100,000 v Hibs

We've had two abroad,one in Moscow and the other in Barcelona.

Sorry to ask, but could we have the years ? :roll:

britain
08-05-2010, 11:13
Didn't we have a 100,000 crowd away in Kiev.

The European Cup 1st Round, Ist leg 1987 ?

britain
17-05-2010, 22:24
Somebody seeking info re attendances in 1970s.

britain
18-05-2010, 05:52
I think the first time we played in front of a 100,000 crowd was the 101,714 v Celtc.

It was the 1924/25 Scottish Cup Semi Final at Hampden and we got gubbed 5-0 !

The enxt time we played them in teh Scottish Cup was the Final of 1928.

This was in front of a new record of 118,115 and this time we gubbed them 4-0 to finally win the Scotish Cup, after a gap of 25 years.

williamstown
19-05-2010, 01:50
The history of crowds v celtic


Around the turn of the last century when both grounds were getting larger was when
we saw the rivalry and pull of these games which made them World famous,
up until the 1890s the biggest crowds were around the 25,000 mark.
in 1897-98 50,000 packed out parkhead double anything that had went before,
this was a league game that never saw the final whistle due to a pitch invasion
we must have equalized as it was 1-1 at the time.

That was to be the largest crowd until the scottish cup final in 1903 when 64,472 turned up at Hampden,the following season 60,000 were at Ibrox where yet again a league game was abandoned due to the crowd running on the park,
the interest was booming now in these two rivals and 50 + 60,000 crowds at both grounds were the norm when they met each other,Ibrox was of course redeveloped after the disaster in 1902 and was steadily getting bigger to suit the demand,another notable crowd was the 81,000 at Hampden in 1907-08 for the Glasgow cup final the biggest so far between the sides.

Another Glasgow cup final broke that record again in 1912-13 when 90,000 turned up,the biggest crowds at both grounds up until the first war were
67,000 at Ibrox in 1912-13 a year later 80,000 at parkhead.

Big attendances after the Great War up to the second World war were.


19-20. 76,000 and 85,000 at Ibrox and 80,000 at parkhead.

21-22. 76,828 Glasgow cup final

24-25. 73,941 Glasgow cup and 101,714 Scottish cup final.
27-28. 70,000 parkhead and 118,115 Scottish cup final
28-29. 80,000 Ibrox glasgow cup
29-30. 74,399 Glasgow cup
30-31. 83,500 Ibrox,70,000 Parkhead and 71,806 Glasgow cup final
31-32. 80,000 Ibrox
34-35. 83,000 Ibrox
35-36. 72,000 Ibrox
36-37. 95,000 Ibrox
37-38. 80,000 Ibrox and 83,500 parkhead
38-39. 118,730 Ibrox and 74,500 parkhead

williamstown
19-05-2010, 02:36
The history of crowds v celtic cont.

Crowds during the second world war were understandably lower but there were
a couple of 70,000 crowds one at Ibrox in 1944-45 and at parkhead in the last year,the semi final of the victory cup that year attracted 90,000 only bettered
by the 100,000 in the final against hibs and the massive 135,000 that watched
us against Aberdeen in the southern league cup final.

great crowds after the war against them still appeared even though Hibs were the main attraction and new rivals for the first 7 years.


47-48. 80,000 Ibrox league cup
48-49. 95,000 and 105,000 league cup both at Ibrox
49-50. 95,000 Ibrox and 71,000 parkhead lc,81,672 charity cup final.
51-52. 86,000 Ibrox,83,235 league cup final
52-53. 80,000 Ibrox and 95,000 Ibrox scottish cup QF
55-56. 75,000 Ibrox
56-57. 88,000 Ibrox scottish cup and 84,000 Ibrox league cup
57-58. 82,273 league cup final.
59-60. 79,786 Scottish cup semi
60-61. 79,000 Ibrox
61-62. 70,000 Ibrox
62-63. 72,000 parkhead,Scottish cup final + replay 129,643 /120,273
63-64. 84,724 Ibrox scottish cup
64-65. 91,423 league cup final
65-66. 76,000 Ibrox,scottish cup final + replay 125,599/98,202,
107,609 league cup final.

66-67. 78,000 Ibrox,76,465 Ibrox glasgow cup,70,000 parkhead and
94,532 league cup final.

67-68. 90,000 Ibrox,94,168 Ibrox league cup,75,000 parkhead league cup
70,000 parkhead.

68-69. 85,000 Ibrox,75,000 parkhead,75,000 parkhead league cup,132,870
scottish cup final.

69-70. 84,000 Ibrox,75,000 parkhead,75,000 parkhead scottish cup,71,645
league cup at Ibrox and 70,000 league cup at parkhead.

70-71. 85,000 Ibrox,75,000 parkhead,scottish cup final + replay,120,092/
103,332,league cup final 106,263.

71-72. 80,000 Ibrox,85,000 Ibrox league cup,77,811 parkhead,72,500 parkhead league cup.

72-73. 72,000 Ibrox,122,714 scottish cup final.

73-74. 70,000 Ibrox
74-75. 71,000 Ibrox,70,494 glasgow cup final.
79-80. 70,303 scottish cup final.
86-87. 74,219 league cup final
88-89. 72,069 scottish cup final.

britain
19-05-2010, 05:39
Williamstown: I never realised you'd posted re first Scottish club 100,000 crowd. When I looked back I found it and then realised that I'd also commented on it !!!!

Keep up the good work.

williamstown
19-05-2010, 05:47
Williamstown: I never realised you'd posted re first Scottish club 100,000 crowd. When I looked back I found it and then realised that I'd also commented on it !!!!

Keep up the good work.

Keeps it fresh in the mind mate,its a long thread to read through and im sure ive repeated myself a few times.;)

britain
19-05-2010, 05:51
Keeps it fresh in the mind mate,its a long thread to read through and im sure ive repeated myself a few times.;)

Morning mate. I find it fascinating to find exact attendances from 'bygone days of yore', when the crowds were basically taken to the nearest 1,000 or even the nearest 5,000:eek:. 'Guesswork' in other words.


Pretty sure a Morton V Ranger sattendance from late 70s was given as 16,900. Honest:D. I'll check back...

williamstown
19-05-2010, 05:57
Morning mate. I find it fascinating to find exact attendances from 'bygone days of yore', when the crowds were basically taken to the nearest 1,000 or even the nearest 5,000:eek:. 'Guesswork' in other words.


Pretty sure a Morton V Ranger sattendance from late 70s was given as 16,900. Honest:D. I'll check back...

Just a 100 short of 17,000 ? big Billy was counting that day.:D:D

britain
19-05-2010, 06:12
Just a 100 short of 17,000 ? big Billy was counting that day.:D:D

'The Complete Record' gives the two League games at Cappielow in 78/89 as 16,500 (23 Sept 78) and 16,312 (20 Jan 79) .
However I'm certain that a/ the Morton programme(s)that season after the 23 Sept 78 League game, gave the crowd for that game as 16,900. I will check. later

Interestingly to me anyway,one of our home games v Morton in April 79 that season had a 15,750 crowd. Lower than either away crowd. The other League crowd v Morton at Ibrox (Nov78)was 21,500.

BakuBear
19-05-2010, 06:24
Being a 70's love child I can not remember my times in the old Ibrox, first memory was no Govan stand being honest.

So for me those big terracing thril's were really Hamdump,, the piggery with 17,000 of us going tonto for 90 mins. Special mention to Tannadice as the stairs under the old were that steep it was a dangerous time for a short ars3 when we scored. As a young pup were were allowed to the front with all the other bairns which at times was just as dangeroud, a few times perched on the old stations that split the terrace but these memorys and some scary times will never be forgotten. I do pity all the young pups who will only remember plastic seats, I do envy the auld yins who were swaying in crowds of 90,000 +

williamstown
19-05-2010, 06:31
'The Complete Record' gives the two League games at Cappielow in 78/89 as 16,500 (23 Sept 78) and 16,312 (20 Jan 79) .
However I'm certain that a/ the Morton programme(s)that season after the 23 Sept 78 League game, gave the crowd for that game as 16,900. I will check. later

Interestingly to me anyway,one of our home games v Morton in April 79 that season had a 15,750 crowd. Lower than either away crowd. The other League crowd v Morton at Ibrox (Nov78)was 21,500.

That was the beauty and the beast of the old ground,to fill it or to make it look full you needed at least 65,000 and to get that it had to be against a good side,while we filled every ground when we played away up and down the country Ibrox only ever looked full in old firm games, against teams on the up or cup ties because it was so big.

williamstown
23-05-2010, 06:00
Apart from the scum who have been our consistently biggest away crowd puller in history? i'll post them up on Tuesday when im sober.:D

williamstown
23-05-2010, 06:19
Being a 70's love child I can not remember my times in the old Ibrox, first memory was no Govan stand being honest.

So for me those big terracing thril's were really Hamdump,, the piggery with 17,000 of us going tonto for 90 mins. Special mention to Tannadice as the stairs under the old were that steep it was a dangerous time for a short ars3 when we scored. As a young pup were were allowed to the front with all the other bairns which at times was just as dangeroud, a few times perched on the old stations that split the terrace but these memorys and some scary times will never be forgotten. I do pity all the young pups who will only remember plastic seats, I do envy the auld yins who were swaying in crowds of 90,000 +

Hampden when you went although restricted was what it was like every week at old Ibrox mate although being a semi or cup final it would be pretty full
and swinging,in the 70s the derry as we knew it was the Copland road end
and thats where we all congregated no matter if there was 20 30 40 thousand or the rest,thats where the choir were and it was something that will never leave me,singing and swaying where everything was hip from the green grassy slopes to forever and ever and the wee spot in Europe.